29 Jun 99 0:07
Hi, Rick...
RG>> So what do you call the attempts to create life from non-living
Scientific curiosity and inquiry.
RG>> How do they relate to evolution?
They don't. You're confusing biogenesis with evolution.
Let me give an example, from my own training as a linguist:
I can take you back to the Middle Ages, oh, 'round the 1100s CE, and show
you a language in the Iberian Peninsula that looks a hell of a lot like
Latin, and a hell of a lot like what we call "Spanish" in 1999. I can go
backwards and demonstrate to you with certainty that this language, which
we'll call "Old Spanish," evolved from Classical Latin, over a period of
several hundred years (nobody woke up one morning, saying "Yo soy" instead
of "Ego sum"), and over a period of a few more hundred years, that language
became Modern Spanish. Sure, you'll be able to point out some inconsistencies
with the language's evolution, such as the unknown origin of -y for the first
person singular of DAR, SER, IR, and ESTAR (doy, soy, voy, estoy), or why
something like Latin "teneo" didn't become *ti¤o instead of the "tengo" that
we use today. I'll be the first to say "I don't know," and I expect that other
professional linguists will, too, but those little inconsistencies do not
destroy the _fact_ that, in the Iberian Peninsula, a former Roman territory
(where Latin was spoken) that we now call "Spain," Latin evolved into Spanish.
Furthermore, I can show you an entire corpus of Latin literature and writings
to back up the Spanish language's origins. Anybody who would deny this
language evolution is denying the facts.
Still with me?
I can now take you back to the British Isles to, oh, let's say the late 700s
CE, and show you the first written evidence for the Anglo Saxon language, which
would later evolve into what you and I call "English." This language bears
very little resemblance, superficially, to Modern English, but it, too,
demonstrably evolved over time. I can show you an entire corpus of English
literature and other documents, ranging from Beowulf to Chaucer to Shakespeare
to CNN in order to demonstrate this evolution. The problem here is that,
unlike the Romance languages, I don't have a written mother tongue to pull out
of my back pocket to show you. I can only compare and contrast structural,
morphological, phonological, and other characteristics between Anglo Saxon
("Old English") and other Germanic languages, like Icelandic, Yiddish,
Frisian, Gothic, Dutch, Swedish, Norwegian, etc., in order to speculate what
that mother tongue looked like (We call it "Proto-Germanic," BTW). This
science is called "philology," and as you may guess, it is open to
self-correction and change as new evidence comes to light. That correction
and adoption of new ideas about the evolution of the Germanic languages does
not in any way 1) deny that these languages are related, 2) deny that these
languages have evolved, and 2) deny that there was some kind of common
ancestor, even though we don't have a clue as to what it looked like. We
have observed the similarities and drawn conclusions based on those facts.
Whereas linguistical evolution occurs over hundreds of years, at least in the
examples I've given (let's not go into Proto-Indoeuropean), physical evolution
occurs over a much larger period of time, and I'll leave it to those who are
more in the know than I am to explain the details to you. In any event, though,
evolution has occurred, and they can cite you countless examples of it.
Whether you choose to accept that is your own affair, of course, but you'll notice that
there is no concern with an initial creator. Evolutionary theory describes
the fact of evolution, just as I can document you the fact that Romance
languages evolved from Latin, and the "theory" part of it describes the hows
and the whys, just as there are questions in Romance linguistics about how we
got to where we are. Example: It's generally accepted that the Latin
accusative case was the foundation for your basic nominative case in most
Romance languages, but a mentor of mine made an argument that, in some cases,
the dative case took that role. He's probably still arguing his case, and he
had a good argument, but whether it's dative or accusative and they argue
for years, the evolution still took place. It's how it took place that it is
at issue.).
RG>> And if the origins of life
Evolution describes facts, not faith. A divine creator is a religious
concept, unobserved, and thus, not considered as part of the theory. You may
as well posit that a large green fish belched, and his bile caused some kind
of protein soup to be formed that spawned life. There's just as much evidence
for that as there is for the Book of Genesis. Sorry.
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Rick Gordon
RG>> matter?
RG>> are not related to the theory of evolution then why the hostility
RG>> towards those who favor a Creator as the ultimate source for life?
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