http://www.light-of-reason.blogspot.com/2002_11_03_light-of-reason_archive.html#84128115
FRONT SIGHT, SCIENTOLOGY -- AND A BLOGGER GETS SUED: Diana Hsieh is a
good friend, an ardent proponent of Second Amendment rights, and a
fellow blogger. She's also, and very unfortunately, now apparently the
target of a lawsuit. I'll tell this story briefly, and focus on the
essentials.
Diana and her husband Paul first became acquainted with Front Sight
Management in April 2002. For many months, they had nothing but the
highest regard for Front Sight, where they had attended a four-day
defensive handgun training course. They admired both Front Sight's
"superb firearms training," and also Front Sight's "remarkable plans
to change hearts and minds about guns and gun rights." As Diana says,
she "was on board 100 percent."
Then, in October of this year, Diana began hearing certain stories
about the alleged connections between Ignatius Piazza, the head of
Front Sight, and Scientology. After investigating these claims as best
she could, Diana was very skeptical about them, and in effect
dismissed them. Immediately after this, Diana received additional
information -- and then the picture began to change, and serious
questions began to emerge about the ties between Piazza and
Scientology. Throughout this process, Diana contacted Piazza directly
with her questions.
But the more information that came to light, the more likely it
appeared that there indeed were some perhaps important connections
between Piazza and Scientology. At this point, Diana sent Piazza a
third email about these matters. In addition to providing links to
information about the "disturbing" and "harassing" tactics of
Scientology, particularly with regard to anyone who dares to question
Scientology and its practices, Diana said this -- which is an issue
that I think should concern anyone who seriously defends Second
Amendment rights:
"Second, your association with Scientology may well pose a grave
danger to the gun rights movement as a whole. As you succeed in
'changing hearts and minds' about guns, the anti-gun lobby and media
will look for any convenient smear tactic to advance their cause. Your
association with Scientology would be the perfect fodder for such
folks. The damage that could be done by a '60 Minutes' report exposing
the 'disturbing connection between the dangerous cult of Scientology
and owner of a massive firearms training facility in the desert of
Nevada' is unfathomable. Gun enthusiasts would no longer be thought of
as uneducated, paranoid rednecks, but rather brainwashed cult members.
The cause of gun rights could be seriously damaged."
Diana also told Piazza that she and Paul were very excited about
attending the four-day training seminar for the second time, and that
they would be traveling to Las Vegas from Colorado on October 30, and
going to the first day of class on November 1. It now turns out that
Front Sight filed a complaint naming Diana as a defendant on October
29. And Diana indicates on her blog that she and Paul returned home
from the seminar earlier than they had expected. So what happened in
Nevada? Draw your own conclusions.
Even though Diana still does not know the contents of the lawsuit, or
the nature of the claims against her, word has quickly spread
throughout the guns rights community. Not surprisingly, people on
various discussion threads are very upset at what they perceive to be
Front Sight's high-handed, strong-arming tactics. For example, at The
Firing Line, people said:
"How can you be a proponent of the second amendment, when you try to
strongarm people out of their first amendment rights?"
"I agree ... this is classic Scientology material. They use the legal
system to intimidate people with the threat of a lawsuit.
Unfortunately, it often works because most people prize their money
above their autonomy and sovereignty. In this case, we have a business
that operates within a specific subculture here in the US. I would
think that FSI Would need to watch their step at this point. Coverage
and publicity of the lawsuit would make FSI look like major whiny baby
but losers."
"Ladies and gentlemen, allow me to point out a classic example of the
'shotgun' school of problem-solving, versus the 'rifle' school. The
'shotgun' school fires projectiles in vast numbers all over the
landscape, in the hope that some of them will connect. The 'rifle'
school takes careful aim at a predetermined target, and fires a
precisely-directed round that will have the desired effect, without
spraying lead all over the place. In the light of Scientology's
long-demonstrated technique of suing everybody and anybody whom they
consider a threat, and the apparent similarity of Front Sight's
response to those involved in the recent fuss, would anybody care to
venture a suggestion as to which 'problem-solving school' both of
these entities fall into???"
At Glock Talk, there are many similar comments:
"Due to events described by the administrator of this website, I
intend to permanently boycott a particular training facility located
near Las Vegas, NV, and will encourage all others that I know in the
training community, to do the same."
"Nothing has been refuted, critics have been threatened, retractions
have been made not to promote truth but to escape predatory lawyers.
People who resort to such disgusting tactics do not deserve respect. I
prefer to deal with honest people who have no fear of the truth, who
do not run to shyster lawyers to threaten lawsuits in order to clamp
down on free speech. If someone has something to hide, it shows."
"I think the fact that the guy is suing Diane Hseih (spelling?) one of
his own 'family' members for just ASKING QUESTIONS is appaling. In
case some of you don't know, the law suit is public record and the
link can be found on her web-site. The owner of this board getting
threatened with a law suit for members expressing opinions and having
general conversation?? COME ON!! If one of this guy's investors can't
even question what is going on without getting sued what does that
tell you? The person is so self conscious about the truth, he doesn't
want anyone talking about the truth."
And, remarkably, Glock Talk itself was threatened by Front Sight:
"Hi folks. I recently received a certified letter, from Front Sight
Firearms Training Institute's lawyer, concerning negative posts made
on Glock Talk. In addition to wanting me to ban an individual that
made allegations against them, the message threatened legal action
against this site if I didn't 'Carefully check posts in the future
concerning Front Site'."
Subsequently, the administrator of Glock Talk said this:
"Hi folks. I just wanted to take a moment to post a clarification of
my message concerning Front Sight Firearms Training Institute. It was
not my intention to capitulate, by disallowing discussion of Front
Sight here. My action was intended to deny them any exposure here at
all, if they thought they could strong-arm me into removing negative
content, while they benefited from the positive content that was left.
I don't like bullies and have no intention of backing down. I sent a
letter to them yesterday outlining my position, along with a refund
check for their banner ad spot.
"Perhaps my actions yesterday weren't very well thought out, or maybe
I should have made my intentions clearer, but I have no intention of
bowing to such heavy-handed tactics. Front Sight and this site have
had a relationship for more than two years and they have been a
sponsor most of that time. For them to contact me via a lawyer,
instead of calling or emailing me personally, was a supremely arrogant
and singularly short-sighted act. It was also quite insulting. I do
not need the money of a company that conducts business that way. Front
Sight does, on the other hand, need the exposure sites like this can
provide. They need the potential customer base sites like this can
give them a chance to pitch to and yet they are trying their best to
alienate that very audience. I don't understand their actions."
Diana has collected all the information about this story, with
numerous links to additional background on Scientology and related
matters, here. I strongly recommend you visit there, and read the
details of this entire affair.
I can only repeat what some of the comments point out at The Firing
Line and at Glock Talk: if there were only questions before about
possible ties among Piazza, Front Sight and Scientology, many of those
questions have become much more serious -- and appear to have perhaps
been answered -- by Front Sight's speed in deciding to sue Diana. And
I point out again that, throughout this business, Diana has approached
these issues with great care: she asked questions directly of Piazza,
she weighed the evidence with great scrupulousness, and she
demonstrated enormous integrity. Moreover, she revealed what I view as
an important understanding and concern for not only the well-being and
reputation of Front Sight, but for the cause of gun rights in general.
It appears to me - and I stress the word "appears," since I obviously
do not know myself about the specific contents of the lawsuit against
Diana -- that Front Sight is trying very hard to get Diana to shut up
quickly, to put the matter bluntly. On the advice of her attorney,
Diana indicates that she will have no further comment about this for
the time being. However, that does not mean that the rest of us cannot
talk about these issues. As a result, one of the most important things
you can do -- if you care about justice, and the cause of gun rights
in general -- is to spread the information that is already publicly
available as far and wide as you can. That alone may well help to
defeat at least one of the purposes of this lawsuit, and it may mean
there will be an end to it much sooner than otherwise would occur.
Through her honest, and serious, questioning about important issues,
Diana has now been drawn into legal proceedings against her will. I
hope many of you will support her in this -- so I urge you to visit
her special Scientology site, and her blog, and leave her a comment to
let her know that she has your support, and that you will help her in
any way you can.
After all, they're your rights, too.
Posted by ARTHUR SILBER at 10:41 AM
[Note: The
Scientology®
organization has at best estimate approximately
45,000 to 50,000 followers world wide -- contrary to the 8 million figure
that the organization has been claiming for the past few years or so.
While that number continues to drop (thanks in part to the Internet) few
of the remaining followers are even aware of the unending series of police
raids, indictments, and prison terms their leaders and fellow cultists are
subjected to routinely. Few are allowed to know about their organization's
criminal history, or its current racketeering activities. Even fewer of
the cult's remaining followers are privy to their messiah's written
policies which dictates the criminal behavior that keeps getting their
organization raided (see Xenu.NET for
suitable references of Scientology policy) Scientology management
is the problem, not the thousands of honest believers who are good,
honest citizens; themselves victims of Scientology - flr]
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