The Kramer disappearance theory
09 Jan 2002
E-mail about Mr. Kramer's disappearance and discovery
still come in from time to time. Some people still
think there's something sinister about it. I suggested
to this person that she post her suspicions to the
alt.conspiracy newsgroup.
The interesting thing is, several people have claimed
that Mr. Kramer had discovered a way to make the old
action-at-a-distance phenomena of two interacting
particles into a viable communications system though,
of course, the believers didn't understand what
constitutes a random stream of information nor do
they ever twigg to the fact that information can't be
conveyed if it's random. I've given up trying to
explain why it doesn't work since it's far too much
effort.
Also of interest here is the belief that there's a
cover story that Mr. Kramer committed suicide when
nowhere in my article do I suggest that. I cover Mr.
Kramer's sleep depravation and I concluded that he
fell asleep behind the wheel. This person read my
article and some how read "suicide coverup."
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From: ...cuts...flr...@aol.com
Are you still maintaining the skeptic tank page? I was
going through old boxes and found a newspaper article
on Philip Kramer's disappearance, so I checked the
internet to see what's happened since the 2/11/96 article.
After learning that his body was found, I searched a
little more to see if the government connection was
known, and was glad that someone had posted your
web site at http://www.raids.org/kramer.htm.
I'm a computer consultant who worked in California in
the 1990's (elsewhere now), and happened to have a few
co-workers who were refugees from aerospace layoffs.
One elderly co-worker took a liking to going to lunch
with me when I worked at Prudential in Woodland Hills.
His name was Al Martinez (we both worked for Pru thru
a contract agency), and he claimed to have worked for
the CIA in the past. I'm fairly well-versed in
geo-politics, and had an ex-boyfriend who had been in
the CIA in his younger years, so I probably was
one of the few people who could follow what Al was
saying.
I recall one lunch when Kramer was mentioned. Al
informed me of Kramer's scientific accomplishments,
but I was pretty skeptical -- how many rock stars
do more than partying and womanizing, after all?
But Al insisted the man had actually been a scientist,
and that he disappeared like a lot of government
scientists disappear -- they go to pick someone up
and never come back. This is how the government
controls secrets at times, although Al expressed
disgust at the practice, and often his statements
led me to believe that he'd been so outraged with
Intelligence that they'd booted him. He even mentioned
that they'd erased most of his memory ("10 years ago,
I didn't know who I was or where I came from"), which
I could believe from my limited knowledge of
psychotronics. However, he was able to regain most
of his memory, probably (as a friend tells me) because
it "wasn't done right".
Al seemed to think that Kramer was locked up instead
of killed, although obviously that wasn't true. Anyway,
he claimed that Kramer was abducted because he'd
discovered a formula that would allow us to communicate
with anyone in the universe in a matter of seconds.
Al didn't mention whether the US government already had
the information when Kramer discovered it, but he
then proceeded to make fun of "a dozen people at NASA"
who were so arrogant because they had this sort of
information and everyone else was excluded.
Obviously, I can't verify if Al was for real, but a lot
of his stories at least partially jive with what
others in intelligence have said. His past CIA
employment also was verified by my boss, who may have
had HR check his employment history.
If anything about Al, he withheld information from
me. I'd find later that he'd given me maybe 10% of
the story, just a tiny bit more than what was already
published in the press. Often for controversial
things, he'd cite a book or article, probably so I
could say I got it from the book instead of him.
As I've told people in the past, the thing about
intelligence friends is that they can get in trouble
for telling you classified items. However, they can
give you pretty strong hints by pointing you toward
the right published theories, or by providing newly
declassified information & putting it in perspective.
Anyway, thanks for posting your article on the net.
I'd be disappointed to think that the man's death was
portrayed as nothing more than a suicide, because I
truly believe it was a government hit.
Thanks,
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Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 20:48:40 EST
Subject: The Kramer disappearance theory
To: frice@linkline.com
Pam R.
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