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Hi all,
Let's take another point of Robert's post.
"Let's be clear about something: Scientology cannot be delivered in
any volume without a strong, capable organizational structure behind it.
It has long been proven that an individual acting alone cannot accomplish
anywhere near as much as an organized group. Our organizations are our
best chance for making it, as a group and as individuals."
Scientology cannot be delivered without a strong organization?
Let's see what LRH says about that
from the "Anatomy of the Spirit of Man" congress lectures.
Tape 6 June 1955
"We could, at this time, put together an organization or a group in
Scientology sufficiently strong, sufficiently powerful to run over
everything it came to.This would be a fascinating thing to do. Be a game in
itself. And then someday-me gone, other guys gone-all of a sudden there sits
this thing, this organization. And somebody has to rise up and say,
"Auditors of the world, unite; overthrow this monster!" And
everybody would see it go down very plainly, you see. Down it'd go. Then
they'd say, "Fine! Now we are free." And they would get another
handful of letters cancellingtheir certificates. (audience laughter)
I try to look far enough in the future to forecast and predict what might
be, so as to not do too many things wrong. You must allow me some
percentage. And as I look into the future, I see that we are handling here,
material of a potential control and command over mankind which must not be
permitted at any time to become the monopoly or the tool of the few to the
danger and disaster of the many......
And I believe that the freedom of the material which we know and understand
is guaranteed only by a lightness of organization, a maximum of people, good
training and good, reliable, sound relay of information. And if we can do
these things, we will win. But if we can't do these things, sooner or later
the information which we hold will become the property of an untrustworthy
few. This I am sure, because it has always happened this way. But that's not
reason it has to keep on happening this way. I am not of an inevitable frame
of mind......"
So LRH himself here covers that, yes we can put together a strong
organization, BUT he defines at what point it would have to be corrected, or
even overthrown.
But it is also clear that "revolution" is not the answer, (see
next excerpt)
"We have this enormous mass of people swelling up out of the ditches and
byroads and gutters and alleys and overwhelming a despotic government on the
motto that "Everybody is going to be free. We're going to have liberty,
fraternity and equality" and we get despotity! Instead of setting up a
new free regime, all they do is use the extant communication lines of
despotism in order to rule and govern. Anyone who would recommend the
overthrow of a nation by force is a fool. He doesn't understand the least
semblance of politics or people. Because no nation is ever overthrown,
they are just substituted for."
What does LRH say we will get if our management is overthrown?
"If you want to know what kind of government you'd get after you
revolted against a government, look at the government you revolted
against. Things will be a little bit bullet-nicked, but that'll be
about the only difference."
So what is the solution?
"....a new free regime"
that is this:
"..... a lightness of organization, a maximum of people, good
training and good, reliable, sound relay of information."
As a side note, Safe and Theta have already proved good,reliable, sound
relay of information is not occurring in regards to LRH's Tech, all of you
have seen your own examples of this, I am sure. If you haven't e-mail safe
and he will be happy to start showing you where to look.
As early as 1955, LRH was very clear about what he did not want the
organization to turn into, and it has turned into the very thing he said it
would, but hoped it would not. Who are we loyal to here? RTC? David
Miscaviage? Not me, If LRH says he doesn't want the org to be how it is
today, and to start over if it becomes like this:
" the monopoly or the tool of the few to the
danger and disaster of the many......"
Then who shall we follow on what to do? LRH? Or RTC/CST/DM?
Strong, powerful organization is not what LRH had in mind, here's what he
thinks about that...
"But I would be a very sad man to realize, after years of work, that
we had created not a greater freedom in the society but a stronger and more
powerful organization in place of existing organizations."
Robert's quote:
"In the tape recorded lecture, "ORG BOARD AND
LIVINGNESS," LRH said:
"So an organization is not a necessary evil or not some reason why,
and so forth. The organization is there to serve Scientologists and to
handle the thing and the public and spread it out and so forth."
Which does not Disagree at all with this:
".....a lightness of organization, a maximum of people, good
training and good, reliable, sound relay of information."
So, Scientologists, is the above quotes what we have with RTC etc?
Who do you believe on what the handling should be, when the organization
has turned into a monster?
Robert, or LRH?
Veracity
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Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 18:48:55 -0800
Subject: For all Lurkers: Scientology HAS to have an org?
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