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From: noring@netcom.com (Jon Noring)
Subject: Re: Dr. Hal Puthoff is an OTIII?
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In article lippard@Primenet.Com (James J. Lippard) writes:
>In article peter lucey <peter@lucey.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>"Research Assoctiate at Hanson Physics laboratory (Stanford University)
>>near Palo Alto, California, Dr. Hal Puthoff is very much a Scientologist.
>>He is OT III expanded and OT VII. An author and expert on laser beam
>>technology, Dr. Puthoff... considers Scientology an invaluable part of
>>both his personal and professional life and is currently busy applying
>>Scientology concepts to modern physics."
>>
>>Any info on the above quote and Dr. Puthoff? Was'nt he involved
>>withy Uri Geller?
>Yes, he and Russell Targ worked with Geller at SRI.
>
>I'm not sure whether he is still a Scientologist or not. He was listed
>as a member of the Council of the Society for Scientific Exploration
>in vol. 9, no. 1 of the _Journal of Scientific Exploration_ (Spring 1995)
>but his name has disappeared with the Summer 1995 issue. His last
>address listed put him at the Institute for Advanced Studies at Austin
>(Austin, TX).
A couple of years ago, well before the current CoS/Internet situation, I
contacted Hal Puthoff with regards to his ongoing research into Stochastic
Electrodynamics (SED) and Condensed Charge Technology (CCT). He and several
others are developing SED as an alternative to quantum mechanics. SED
essentially assumes classical physics but with the added assumption that
space is filled with a real vacuum energy. The results of SED are amazing
and several quantum mechanical principles have been derived based on these
assumptions, including the Schroedinger equation. They've even attempted to
explain gravity with SED but have so far come up short (one paper had a
mistake in the mathematics which I helped Puthoff to find -- back to the
drawing board). He and others have published often about SED in Physical
Review, so the research is by no means "crackpot" as PhysRev is a highly
respected, peer-reviewed set of physics journals.
In one paper, Puthoff theorizes that the vacuum energy of space is *very
random*, non-blackbody distributed electromagnetic energy whose source is
the motion of all charge carriers in the universe, which, if true, suggests
that it is theoretically possible to tap the motion energy of the charge
carriers of the universe via the vacuum energy (like we tap the fusion energy
of the sun *via* solar energy) without violating the 1st and 2nd laws of
Thermodynamics (because the motion of matter in the universe is still highly
ordered). CCT is a recent technology developed which purports to take
advantage of the vacuum energy and generates more electric power than was
used to produce the micron-sized CC's -- all of this is purported, not proven,
of course.
Hal Puthoff also has *very* close ties to NSA and advises them on matters
related to physics. And this is where things get to be quite strange (note:
things will get weird from this point on, so put up with me). According
to some unconfirmed information I gained while working at Lawrence Livermore
National Laboratory (I worked there as a mechanical engineer for 5 years until
last month), the U.S. government has been working hard to reverse engineer
actual extra-terrestrial spacecraft and to understand the physics behind them
(as strange as it sounds, I have good reasons to believe this information is
true).
That's where Hal Puthoff comes in, and Puthoff is apparently doing research
into SED partly to explain both the power source as well as how the spacecraft
is able to distort/warp space so that it can travel long distances in a short
time (like in Star Trek). He apparently believes that SED can offer an
explanation where current QM, SR, and GR cannot (a recent paper by him which
generated a lot of scientific interest and which used SED principles showed
that the source of inertia could be the interaction of the vacuum energy with
matter -- this has ramifications for how it is possible to alter space to
allow "FTL" space travel as well as how to alter gravity/inertia itself.)
Anyway, weirdness aside, I speculate that Hal Puthoff partly initiated
research into PSI in the 70's based on his Scientological beliefs. Since he
is purported to be an OTIII, we now know (thanks to SCAMIZDAT) that he has
been exposed to Hubbard's teachings on Xenu, aliens, the nuking of Hawaii,
etc. And of course Scientologists believe in some paranormal phenomena as a
general rule. It is unclear if he still has any ties to the Church of
Scientology, or if he even believes the OTIII story, but regardless, I wonder
how they are influencing his work on SED? I wonder if CoS has an interest in
advanced spacecraft propulsion? I wonder if CoS knows what's going on at
Groom Lake and Area 51? :^) And of course, I wonder how CoS is tied in with
NSA other than having a Scientologist advising NSA on scientific matters.
It's all real interesting but highly speculative of course. BTW, I found
Hal Puthoff to be very open-minded, willing to listen to other's ideas no
matter how different (Puthoff reads Bearden's stuff to get new perspectives,
NOT because he believes Tom Bearden's ideas), and also is willing to admit
when he is wrong and move in another direction. He embodies many of the
attributes of the ideal scientist, unlike many of the current physicists
who are overly stubborn and prefer to enforce orthodoxy rather than to
continue to seek the truth, even if the truth turns out to overturn years
of personal beliefs. A true scientist will not trust his/her own beliefs,
will always question the fundamental postulates underlying his beliefs,
and will gladly change them when the evidence to do so is presented -- and,
in addition, he will gladly support research to prove his beliefs wrong.
Unfortunately, I see very few scientists today who hold these principles --
I know as I have directly worked with many of the top scientists in the
country at the University of Minnesota, Sandia, LBL, UCB, and LLNL. Hal
Puthoff is one of the few I've met who does, and that partly explains why
his name invokes a lot of heated discussion.
Back to Scientology...
Jon Noring
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