Archive Message - 1995

Since some of the materials which describe the $cientology cult could be considered to be copywritten materials, I have censored myself and The Skeptic Tank by deleting any and all possible text files which describes the cult's hidden mythologies. I have elected to quote just a bit of the questionable text according to the "Fair Use" legal findings afforded to those who report. - Fredric L. Rice, The Skeptic Tank, 09/Sep/95 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- From!!!pipex!uknet!gdt!bsmail!plmlp Mon Jul 10 16:59:56 1995 Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology Path:!!!pipex!uknet!gdt!bsmail!plmlp From: (Martin Poulter) Subject: Who is this nutter? Message-ID: <> Sender: (Usenet news owner) Nntp-Posting-Host: Organization: University of Bristol, England Date: Thu, 6 Jul 1995 14:21:06 GMT Lines: 69 I just received this e-mail. I have had to heavily re-format it in order to post it. Despite his claimed intelligence, the writer doesn't seem to know how to use e-mail software. Who is this guy? Date: Thu, 6 Jul 1995 09:41:49 -0400 From: Message-Id: <> To: Subject: You are spreading false information on the Internet about Scientology. The references you cite are incorrect. But you lead your readers to believe they have researched the subject in a scientific and scholarly manner. How dare you! Your conclusion that Scientology "brainwashes" people is completely false. Just the opposite is true. This is a religion but a science as well. [Sorry, but I've studied science at degree level. A "science" based on no research whatsoever is not a science. If you can prove me wrong with some citations, go ahead.] As with any science or discipline, the correct application of the technology produces uniform and standard results. [It seems to me that the belief system in Scientology is such that "correct application" is defined as that which produces the claimed effects (or at least makes everyone *agree* that those effects have occurred) When the tech goes wrong, that's the fault of the individual's abberations or past crimes.] Those results include the ability to think clearly and independently, a greater awareness about oneself and one's ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^[Like Woody or Jack Farmer?] relationship with life and others, a higher degree of ethics (ethics is ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ defined as those actions which promote survival to the greatest number), etc. [Courts around the world disagree.] You are masking false information to promote your agenda against the Church. Why? What crimes have you committed? What are you hiding? What do you hope to gain from this? [Jeez, I don't even need to parody you! I don't even have to tell people that the Scientology belief system is paranoid. People like you do it for me.] Your kind has been around since 1950 when Dianetics was released. Despite the efforts of anti-social personalities like you, Scientology is booming. [Income is declining, number of active orgs is declining; Narconon is shrinking. The figures have been posted on this newsgroup. If you can prove they're wrong, go ahead] I have extensive knowledge of Scientology. My experience totally contradicts your information. [I have been posting some Fair Use extracts of Hubbard's writings. Helena Kobrin has confirmed that the extracts that I used are authentic. Dare you contradict Source?] I am more capable of clear, rational thinking as a result of Scientology. [well maybe you should be giving lessons to the Scientologists who post to a.r.s] Scientology has removed the "brainwashing" I've had. That's why I can be more aware of everything now. It's like climbing up a mountain. The higher you go up the more you can see and be aware of. You are in a cave -- aware of nothing. [Wouldn't a better metaphor than a cave be, ummm... a dark, grimy basement?] -- MARTIN L: Postgrad. studying "Probability and Belief" at Bristol University POULTER : KNIGHT NATASEVOLLLEWYLLOJI WWW Home Page & Scientology Critics' OF Scientology is a dangerous cult stuff: XENU -warn your family and friends.


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