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From: Robert Marcus <102020.1551@CompuServe.COM>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
Subject: Notes on the Anti-Scientologists
Date: 12 Jul 1995 23:43:52 GMT
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Well, folks, this has all been very interesting. A case study in
people trying to die, apparently. Now, the interesting thing is,
despite all the yappings and how Church financial records are
"being looked into" and all that (have no idea from who as the
"gentlemen" who made that comment did not reveal the precise
sources) there is apparently no effect created on the expansion
of Scientology whatsoever -- rather all this is confined to the
twenty or so yappers right here in alt.religion.scientology. I
find this fascinating. Further, I believe this "gentleman" is
known and that his financial background is being looked into by
our now ally, the IRS. Funny of how those doing the accusing
usually are doing the precise things they accuse others of.
None of the press is pursuing any of this crap as it only exists
in the minds of these folks who apparently have the great ability
to see what they want to see and who can look no further nor who
have any real case at all -- just personal beefs because of their
own transgressions. And to the ones who have no dealings with
the Church past or present, just need to have a life and a
bandwagon to jump on for lack of any real cause facing man today.
So, Take it to the mainstream press, fellows, if you have so much
"evidence". And the agreement amongst the antis would constitute
the definitive definition of the word "cult". In fact, I believe
you dudes and dudettes have actually started your own cult
because you sure are enthusiastic about Scientology or the Church
or L. Ron. Hubbard, etc., regardless of what you've been writing.
Hubbard is right. He is as popular as ever. And the crap
written always leads to those who don't simply buy your drivel
and who will actually take a look for themselves and decide for
themselves because they are of the elite group of thinking beings
-- of which, from my observation, you fellows seem to echo the
same stuff over and over again like a bunch of hypnotized,
brainwashed zombies -- the very thing you accuse Scientologists
of being. Fascinating, again.
It is interesting that there never is any mention of the great
things this technology is doing for folks. I've met several who
have recovered abilities never before dreamed of just by one
auditing session. One gentleman rediscovered a tremedous talent
for baroque music that was not availble to him this lifetime. It
all came back to him. I spent a good hour with him listening to
him play and play and play with the greatest vituousity
counterpoint whereas he knew only this life that he liked the
piano and took lessons but never could actually play it at all.
Another recovered a tremendous talent for drawing whereas before
her auditing she could barely sketch at all -- literally stick
figures. I, myself, have uncovered an ability to read music
fluently whereas I never could read that well even though I
majored in the subject in school and read music all the time.
Just some of the miracles of Scientology and man, the spirit.
I'll stay with my winning team - the Scientologists.
There was never any doubt for me and millions of others. You
guys are just a very minor vocal minority who are just sour
grapes about something. Maybe none of you can make money. This
is apparent by Dennis Erlich having to solicit funds for his
defense. Cannot Dennis make money? And if the funds are still
being asked for then apparently none of the rest of you have
enough, either, to spare. This could go on for 100 years.
Laughable, too.
Finally, from what I've read from the anti's, the real purpose is
not to get out any truth at all. That would take an honest look
from the people doing the rantings at their own actions and
purposes. I doubt any of you could. You may not have the luxury
of being able to do so. Somehow, with all the other situations
on this planet, I find that attacking Scientology is just really
a wrong target -- that there are others possibly needing
attacking who are out there to put all of us into the grave.
Maybe by going after the dudes who are burning down the Amazon
could we not save this vital portion of Earth as it apparently
does much for medicine, the atmosphere and your very health and
vitality in this country, hmmm? How about the perpetuators of
the internal combustion engine -- a machine, accordingly to many,
that has been obsolete for at least 50 years and is chiefly
responsible for most of the air pollution that exists in this
country. How about them fellows?
It makes a sane man wonder what would the antis wish instead as a
solution for mankind or its woes, if any. Maybe they have no
solution. They just want to hurt or maim without any alternative
solution because I have not read one yet. Thus is psychosis, I
suppose. Ron was right -- they can be very convincing. To me,
it shows the utter ignorance of the antis, as "clever" as they
write (attempts at humor) but that is about the totality of the
cleverness and nothing more. I would call them pseudo-
intellectuals, personally. All the apparency of intelligence but
without solutions or any real discourse. Sort of a bar mentality
at your local rock club.
On that note, Henry at U of Denver, I got a call today from one
of the Administrators. More on that later. Peter McDermott just
rambles on and on about the same thing, offers no specifics, just
"references" to others who howl about the same things over and
over and over again, like a broken CD. Peter just cannot provide
any specifics, period. Useless as tits on a bull you are, Peter,
to your "cause".
Well, no use spending more time here. The anti's have become
utterly boring. Should I ever return to this garbage I'm sure
I'll find folks having a grand old time about this message with
little pointless quips and such. Something like "gee, all those
Brazilians are bad but this is more fun" or some such assinine
statement, and you'll all chuckle and what have you. Fine. I
just wonder, if all you are so clean and crimeless, whether you
could walk away from all this? I doubt, that, too, because I
think you guys have such thoroughly stuck attention on us you
have becomed trapped by your own game -- a game you're all losing
personally and otherwise at right now because you cannot walk
away from it. Fortunately, I can. The sun never sets on
Scientology.
Adios,
RM