Since some of the materials which describe the $cientology cult could be
considered to be copywritten materials, I have censored myself and The
Skeptic Tank by deleting any and all possible text files which describes
the cult's hidden mythologies. I have elected to quote just a bit of the
questionable text according to the "Fair Use" legal findings afforded to
those who report. - Fredric L. Rice, The Skeptic Tank, 09/Sep/95
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From: rogue@ccs.neu.edu (R Agent)
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
Subject: Re: The Noose is Tightening on CoS (was Big Suprise - 79K) (LONG)
Date: 19 Jul 1995 04:10:49 GMT
Organization: College of Computer Science, Northeastern University
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In article <3uhke9$gri@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com>,
Tim Johnson <esi_inc@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
[...]
>So, as quick as someone might speak out and say, "Hey, I'm a
>Scientologist and this is my point of view," he would get vehemently and
>viciously attacked religiously and personally from many sides; issue
>taken with each paragraph - and all of the above based on...
It's a heated discussion, that should be obvious from the start. If
you can't see that you're not looking.
Our "attacks" as you put it shouldn't bother you anyway, you've been
through TR-3 Bullbait. If you can't handle a little heat I suggest
you go to Qual to get your buttons flattened.
>second and third hand information as I said; allegations, claims,
>reports of apparently incriminating court records (much of such
>inflammatory information is the result of Mr. Erlich's activities, who
>was thrown out of the Church for theft and Squirelling - that is,
>altering the technology).
As I said in my other post, your PR Series 24 tactics won't cut the
mustard out here. We've seen it all for ourselves. Don't bother
trying to get us to doubt others. We are the source of our data.
[...]
>The responses would have me in an endless debate on every minor point,
>yet they all avoided the major premise completely. So I'll be more
>succinct:
>
>What do you know to be fact, personally, yourself, with firsthand
>knowledge - what do you *actually* know about the CoS? Answer that.
I know the church teaches that the source of all illness is "body
thetans", which are the souls of people blown up 76 million years ago
by a galactic overlord named "Xenu".
I know that the Purif tries to cleanse the body through sweat, which
does not carry any significant amount of waste product.
I know Hubbard says "there is no such thing as a fat cell", which is
demonstrably false.
I know the church is against free speech, since it and its members
have tried more than once to silence this open forum.
I know the church engages in dirty tricks, because I've seen it do so
to my friends here. I know the church teaches some of its people how
to lie, how to evade, how to do dirty tricks, because I've seen the
PLs, HCOBs and internal memos that describe how.
I know high church officials have been convicted of wiretapping,
breaking and entering, theft of documents.
If you wish to refute any of these please do. If you don't I'll
assume that you're following policy set out in PR Series 24, which
quotes Hubbard as saying "You only challenge statements you _can_
prove are false and in any conversation let the rest slide."
[posted and mailed]
RA
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