Since some of the materials which describe the $cientology cult could be
considered to be copywritten materials, I have censored myself and The
Skeptic Tank by deleting any and all possible text files which describes
the cult's hidden mythologies. I have elected to quote just a bit of the
questionable text according to the "Fair Use" legal findings afforded to
those who report. - Fredric L. Rice, The Skeptic Tank, 09/Sep/95
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From: bill@scconsult.com (Bill Stewart-Cole)
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Subject: Re: The Noose is Tightening on CoS (was Big Suprise - 79K) (LONG)
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 1995 08:52:58 -0500
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In article <3uhke9$gri@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com>, esi_inc@ix.netcom.com (Tim
Johnson) wrote:
>In <visnet-1807951028520001@dal35.onramp.net> visnet@onramp.net (Sri
>Changiana Saar) writes:
>>
>>In article <3uf5mk$3nj@ixnews7.ix.netcom.com>, esi_inc@ix.netcom.com
>(Tim
>>Johnson) wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Sister Clara
>>
>>Pardon me for jumping in even though I'm not, technically, Sis Clara...
>
>So, as quick as someone might speak out and say, “Hey, I’m a
>Scientologist and this is my point of view,” he would get vehemently and
>viciously attacked religiously and personally from many sides; issue
>taken with each paragraph - and all of the above based on...
>
>second and third hand information as I said; allegations, claims,
>reports of apparently incriminating court records (much of such
>inflammatory information is the result of Mr. Erlich’s activities, who
>was thrown out of the Church for theft and Squirelling - that is,
>altering the technology).
What a shame that you do not confront any of it except in this blanket
inaccuracy. I am amazed that you would term a quote from a CoS lawyer and
the CoS's PR person to be second-hand. The court records are accurate as
posted.
Yes, I have looked up a number of the specific citations. Yes, they do
describe criminal actions by high officials of the church. If you don't
believe it, look it up yourself. Consider it 'case-clearing,' an extension
of word-clearing. I suppose what you are saying is that if one was not
present when Leisa Goodman was composing her web page, or when Cooley was
babbling in court, or when various judges have written scathing decisions
against the church, you cannot know any of this. By that standard I can as
easily question your existence, because I have not touched you.
As for Dennis, I doubt anyone much cares whether he ran away or was kicked
out. Do you know from first-hand experience why he left? By your standard
you do not unless you were IN the Sea Org at Clearwater when he was.
Howver to accuse anyone of 'squirreling' is amusing. Hubbard altered the
tech continuously for almost 40 years. Was he a squirrel? Can any change
now be made to the tech by anyone?
>Of course, someone will dutifully take exception to all these
>statements, again. The rancor with which this occurs is my evidence.
>So blast away.
Rancor is unnecessary when simple rationality suffices.
My attitude towards individual Scientologists is generally no more than
pity. (I feel the same way albeit less so towards FreeZoners. They are
fooling themselves for free.) The CoS as an organizaton however I
consider an enemy of freedom and of free people. They have shown this in
their litigation.
>The responses would have me in an endless debate on every minor point,
>yet they all avoided the major premise completely. So I'll be more
>succinct:
>
>What do you know to be fact, personally, yourself, with firsthand
>knowledge - what do you *actually* know about the CoS? Answer that.
1. They have a history of institutionalized criminality.
2. They have a history of suing people barratrously.
3. They have taken actions in the past year online that define them as an
enemy of the net.
4. They base their religion on psuedo-scientific bunkum. The authenticity
of the OT materials referred to here is confirmed by the CoS to the
extent that they are suing Dennis for posting critiques with quotes. Those
documents are filled with lies.
--
Bill Stewart-Cole
What is Stewart-Cole Consulting?
Hell if I know. I'll find out when I finish the web page.
If the above isn't PGP signed, I *might* not have written it.