Archive Message - 1995

Since some of the materials which describe the $cientology cult could be considered to be copywritten materials, I have censored myself and The Skeptic Tank by deleting any and all possible text files which describes the cult's hidden mythologies. I have elected to quote just a bit of the questionable text according to the "Fair Use" legal findings afforded to those who report. - Fredric L. Rice, The Skeptic Tank, 09/Sep/95 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- From!!!swrinde!!!Starbase.NeoSoft.COM!not-for-mail Wed Jul 19 09:29:35 1995 Path:!!!swrinde!!!Starbase.NeoSoft.COM!not-for-mail From: wbarwell@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM (William Barwell) Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology Subject: Re: should critics fear physical harm? Date: 15 Jul 1995 17:55:10 -0500 Organization: NeoSoft Internet Services +1 713 968 5800 Lines: 63 Message-ID: <3u9h0e$94h@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM> References: <3u9eel$> NNTP-Posting-Host: In article <3u9eel$>, Jeff Jacobsen <> wrote: > I just saw an old Fifth Estate (Canadian TV) program for the first >time. Gerald Armstrong, an ex-Scientologist, said he and his friends >(while he was still in the church) had discussed getting a gun and >shooting a public critic of the church who had been a high-ranking >Scientologist. I saw Margery Wakefield on Florida Public TV state that >she and some other Scientologists had decided to dump a wayward member >into the ocean, but when they went to get him he had escaped (she's an >ex-member). Steven Fishman (another ex-member) stated that he believes >there was a murder that involves the church. And, L. Ron Hubbard wrote >R2-45, which is a method to go exterior from your body by being shot in >the head with a .45 pistol. Hubbard even wrote an order to apply this >method to certain individuals. > The Garry Scarff deposition has Scarff stating he was ordered to >murder Cynthia Kisser, director of the Cult Awareness Network, although >he never carried it out. > These are disturbing me more lately. As the church begins to >collapse, there will be more and more pressure on the hierarchy to do >more and more desperate things to keep the church intact. I write the >above not to scare anyone but to put the church on notice that, should >they revert to physically harming people, there is ample evidence already >in the public domain which shows prior tendencies toward destructive >behavior toward the church's perceived enemies. Such tactics will >instantly work against the church and would result in its final collapse. > I know of no cases where the church has actually been proven to >physcially harm some critic. I do know that there is a violent side of >the church. Overboarding from the ship the Apollo was violent enough to >have broken someone's arm (this was John McMaster, I think). There are >many cases of people stating they were held against their will at times >while they were under church employment. Steve Fishman told me that >while he was being interrogated once in the church that his superior cut >off a small portion of his skin, held it in front of Steve's face and >said "now confront your body." I heard that some of the upper hierarchy >officers sometimes ran around in a fancy uniform where a dagger was a >part of the outfit. > Maybe we should be glad the church prefers to use the court system to >attack its critics, and private investigators to harass them. It could >be much worse. I hope it doesn't happen. But, with this violent side, >the church may be unintentionally encouraging some unstable member to >commit a violent act against someone they feel is impeding the salvation >of this planet. I hope they are taking measures to educate their members >that violence against critics is illegal, immoral, against church policy >(even though the Fair Game policy says otherwise), and counterproductive. > Do not forget the assault on persons in Bent Corydon's office by a clamhead bent on harrassing Corydon for writing about Scientology as related in Corydon's book. And the somewhat mysterous death of Miscavige's mother. Nor Susan Meister. I would also like to reiterate that to any clamhead PI's reading this that I am armed and have signed up for training and liscensing of a concealed weapon, licenses which will become legal in Texas by January 1996. Licensing will start in September and I will be carrying as soon as I am allowed on, a regular basis. Physically harrass me at your own risk. Stay away from my domicile at night also. Pope Charles SubGenius Pope of Houston Slack! Remember Paulette Cooper! Remember Paulette Cooper! Remember Paulette Cooper!


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