Archive Message - 1995

Since some of the materials which describe the $cientology cult could be considered to be copywritten materials, I have censored myself and The Skeptic Tank by deleting any and all possible text files which describes the cult's hidden mythologies. I have elected to quote just a bit of the questionable text according to the "Fair Use" legal findings afforded to those who report. - Fredric L. Rice, The Skeptic Tank, 09/Sep/95 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- From!!uunet!!!!not-for-mail Wed Jul 19 09:29:54 1995 Path:!!uunet!!!!not-for-mail From: (henry) Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology Subject: Re: A Line Has Been Crossed Date: 18 Jul 1995 20:02:55 -0600 Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci. Lines: 164 Message-ID: <3uhp4f$> References: <> NNTP-Posting-Host: X-Editor-wrapper: SigEd V1.2.1, Add .sig and PGP flexibility to posts. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- In article <>, Clambo <> wrote: >(Notice: Kim Baker explained fully at one time that the co$ tactic is to >attack the MOST effective people on a.r.s. Diane is all that and more.....) so far, i've trusted to the fact that i spout obscenity continually to 'discredit' me as an 'effective' critic, and so far it's worked. they don't understand that nobody on the net gives a shit about the spare fuck or two. frankly, i intend to perform the same function here to the clams as the clam-lawyer earle cooley, to make a lot of noise and attract attention to alt.religion.scientology. this explains my sometimes excessive and ridiculous crossposts. i trust that net people behave as i do, or at least the net people i intend to attract. when i see a massively crossposted threat that seems incredibly wacky and bizarre and unbelievable, i follow it around through the newsgroups and try to get to the bottom of it. i was a fan of robert mcelwaine, and i _adore_ joan brewer, and doctress neutopia, ah, i blow a kiss to her. i found this group on when that was the net-abuse group, and chased it down here. frankly, the accusations against the church <spit> of scientology seemed really paranoid and bizarre, the ravings of kooks, but generally impassioned and sincere, so i wanted to find out why. regardless of how kooky the whole thing seemed, the cancel messages and rmgroup message utterly infuriated me, and so i sent out a few nasty obscenities and more-or-less off-handed contempt, never intending to have anything to do with the situation again. what happens? some dick named 'thesaint' replaces 'scientologist' with 'jew' in every occurrence, posts the whole mess to soc.culture.jewish, and expects people to buy this shit, a blatant forgery. a threat to sue me from the lying ho' of babble-on, helena kobrin, some loon i've never heard of, i'm bombarded with _weird-ass_ email from robert marcus (yeah, the death-threat guy), 'bomb-threats' are pinned on me, and at this point i get pissed. FUCK THESE PEOPLE! i think. i realize that finally i'm seeing the determined attack on the net i've been waiting for since i joined the cypherpunks list a couple years ago and caught on to the fact that there are going to be interests who are utterly opposed to the anarchic freedom of the net, and who are horribly threatened by the fact that the laws of mathematics make it possible to encrypt messages, and somehow feel that outlawing the laws of nature makes sense. they're idiots, and they're losers, and they are doomed to failure. declaring war on the net is the sure sign of a doomed moron. they might as well declare war on glaciers, or declare war on pi. >This cuts it! Is this what it has come down to Robert (OSA) Marcus? Is >scientology conspiring to cut her brake lines too? Your demented cult has >crossed a line here that it should not even have approached. In the past >scientology has done this to many other isolated individuals. too bad there _aren't_ any isolated individuals here, and we on the net have grown to see that an attack on an individual is an attack on _all_ of us. these stupid fuckers had damn well better make sure that diane doesn't so much as STUB HER FUCKING TOE, due to this marcus idiot, or else there will be hell to pay. >Now it is out here for all to see. Wallowing in helplessness while your cult >is being disemboweled on Usenet, this is the best tactic you can come up >with? If you were looking for a button to push, you certainly picked the >wrong one as I know where all my available time and >resources are going to be placed. I hope everyone reading your bile >complains in the most extreme manner to Compuserve (try Michael Dixon@ >614-538-4157 or Brian Biggs@ 614-457-8600). I hope Diane seriously pursues >legal recourse for this assault, I will GLADLY contribute. lest anyone assume this is mere rhetoric, a death-threat such as the demented robert marcus has issued is indeed considered ASSAULT, is indeed considered a credible threat, and is indeed an imprisonable offense. if we can get this fucker summarily tossed somewhere cold and hard, it will send a very strong signal. the cult managed to get first blood attacking erlich like it did, but the net will demand SECOND blood and THIRD blood and FOURTH blood and the endlessness of these papercuts will destroy this worthless cult by attrition. reading this, helena ho'? HEAR THIS, BITCH! WE SHALL NOT BE MOVED! we are not going ANYWHERE! the net is expanding by thousands of nodes EVERY DAY! we'll be here and expanding long after your worthless nut-cult has become a footnote in the history of frauds. don't FUCK with us and MAYBE we'll let your cult feep along it's lame way to its inevitable extinction instead of just squashing it like a bug on the windshield of the turbo-charged maserati of the net. >This is NOT >acceptable OSA, do not continue this course of action. Perhaps it is time we >all take our gloves off, perhaps the time has past. New readers to this >newsgroup, take note: This is scientology at its most fundamental level, >this is what it is all about. Remember this, I know I will. Please, save >Robert Marcus's original post with included headers. that's for sure. frankly, the kid gloves have been on until now. i think the net community is beginning to lose patience with this incursion of violent lunatics who think death-threats are business as usual. not HERE, buddy. here your words take on a life of their own, and they're gonna come back and blindside your lame asses. > >*From: Robert Marcus <102020.1551@CompuServe.COM> >*Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology >*Subject: The Quite Mad Diane Richardson >*Date: 16 Jul 1995 15:24:19 GMT >*Organization: via CompuServe Information Service >*Lines: 82 >*Message-ID: <3ubav3$14v$> > > > [sick scieno-shit snipped as it is unimportant compared to the rest >of the post] > >>These cultists should be pitied by any sane individual. > >That leaves you and your whole psychotic cult cartel out in the cold; evil >incarnate. >I indeed pity you Robert more than ever; sick, very very sick. None the >less, to quote henry, "Fuck you and the Hubbard you rode in on.". > > Fuck you, fuck you very much. l. ron is a rotting corpse. $cientology is THROUGH, it just hasn't noticed it yet. NO MORE! h - -- Spouse, n.: Someone who'll stand by you through all the trouble you wouldn't have had if you'd stayed single. [ For Public Key: finger ] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6 iQCVAwUBMAxnUdOUGUXWNqytAQGlUgP/VQwOvuao0+OM9Kzt6TFQG7DCv82+Ycdc OK7Tc7Y7GBHUzvhm0bHuCm8Z6dfJKJ5CUUZ9ixxJxUGm1DobXOmtuudO8zIFPZNR o7Sx9q0hYaoum+iY7Wz/pk0ffMEjAGgYyFj9fMPBIMigwIYeKNA8M4pW4FQY0M2G MTqkDTxl71I= =n+Id -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----


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