Archive Message - 1995

Since some of the materials which describe the $cientology cult could be considered to be copywritten materials, I have censored myself and The Skeptic Tank by deleting any and all possible text files which describes the cult's hidden mythologies. I have elected to quote just a bit of the questionable text according to the "Fair Use" legal findings afforded to those who report. - Fredric L. Rice, The Skeptic Tank, 09/Sep/95 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- From!!!cultxpt Sat Jul 22 08:11:17 1995 Path:!!!cultxpt From: (Jeff Jacobsen) Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology Subject: OTIV & OTV; bait and switch? Date: 20 Jul 1995 04:13:18 GMT Organization: Primenet (602)395-1010 Lines: 30 Message-ID: <3ukl4u$> NNTP-Posting-Host: X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] I just watched the Watchman Fellowship videotape of the cult conference. An ex OTVI spoke about her trip up the bridge of Scientology. She said when she finished OTIII she had to attest that all her Body Thetans[tm] were gone, and the emeter agreed. BUT! when she started taking OTIV she found out that was to get rid of MORE BT's! These BT's had been under the influence of drugs or alcohol in the past and were thus harder to get rid of, so much so that a mere OTII couldn't do it. So these were sort of BT's with DT's (I stole this). Then when she finished OTIV she attested again that all her BT's were gone, and the emeter floated, so on to OTV. On OTV she found out AGAIN that she had still MORE BT's. This time these BT's were dormant or almost comatose, and it took the power of an OTIV to wake them up and send them on their way. Now isn't this illegal? To sell a course under the claim that it will rid you of all your BT's when the church KNOWS this isn't true, that is fraud or something, IMHO. For instance, if I say I can rid you of all your irrational fear of cats, and you pay me $12,500 to do this, what would happen if after the course you ran across a black cat and were still so fearful that you had to run home? You come to me and say "You contracted with me to get rid of my irrational fear of cats. I am still afraid of this black cat!" So I say "Well, black cats are an extra course and an extra $12,500." Haven't I committed a fraud here? Just wondering. -- ////// Jeff Jacobsen SP3, Scientology critic PO Box 3541 /users/c/cultxpt Scottsdale AZ 85271 USA


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