Archive Message - 1995

Since some of the materials which describe the $cientology cult could be considered to be copywritten materials, I have censored myself and The Skeptic Tank by deleting any and all possible text files which describes the cult's hidden mythologies. I have elected to quote just a bit of the questionable text according to the "Fair Use" legal findings afforded to those who report. - Fredric L. Rice, The Skeptic Tank, 09/Sep/95 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- From!!!pipex!demon!not-for-mail Sat Jul 22 08:11:24 1995 Path:!!!pipex!demon!not-for-mail From: Anonymous <> Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology Subject: The Noose is Tightening on CoS (was Big Suprise - 79K Date: Sat, 22 Jul 1995 06:45:21 +0200 Organization: Hack-Tic International, Inc. Lines: 90 Message-ID: <> X-NNTP-Posting-Host: Comments: Hack-Tic may or may not approve of the content of this posting Comments: Please report misuse of this automated remailing service to <> In article <3unchm$>, (Tim Johnson) wrote: > > I have provided spaces for your rebuttles. > > Ok, so I myself personally do not have first hand knowledge of these > things which you do not also have first hand knowledge of all the true, > relavent, factual details. Its second hand information, third hand > information, impressions, opinions, claims and allegations, reports, > documents. We are not at all dealing in a realm which operates on > facts known with absolute certainty. Courts are not either, but are > approximating the truth to > the degree of availability and legal skills (or in spite of) etc. > [rebuttle here] I do not have proof that you exist independently of cyberspace or, indeed, outside my imagination. Perhaps you ought to disappear before I imagine you sucking on the crotch of Vera's panties? > The point is that I have information available to me which you do not. > Which you may never have available to you. Which you say you do not > wish. Information I have which I can weigh against yours in an > evaluation. Now I know you're another damn-fool $cieno. You've given yourself away, buster, by that unmistakable style of bluster. So, I have some questions for you: o How many medals did LRH actually win during his Naval service in WW2, and why is it that the Department of Defence has him listed as having been awarded only the four campaign medals that were given to every US serviceman/woman even if they served in the pay corps, catering corps or on latrine duty? o How many, if any, submarines did LRH sink in his shakedown cruises on his patrol craft and why did the Dept of the Navy conclude that he'd only disturbed the sea bottom somewhat by dropping some 30 or 40 depth charges on a known magnetic deposit? o Why did LRH claim to have left the Navy as a "helpless cripple" and "blind", yet also claim to have fought in a bar-room brawl at that time? Why, if he really was cured of his complaints by the use of Dianetics, did he spend much of his time from 1945 until the 1950's trying to bounce the Veterans Administration into increasing his service disability pension and why, if he was cured, did he continue to draw that pension until he died? o Why did LRH die screaming and babbling nonsense about body thetans? o Why has at least one German court decided that $cientology is not a religion but a business? Why are a number of $cientologists on charges of fraud in France? Why are more $cientologists, including Heber Jensch, facing similar charges in Spain? o Why did the California Church of $cientology remove all its funds and assets in the interval between Lawrence Wollersheim winning his case in the District Court and his winning his case at the Supreme Court? Is the "Church" not aware that such may be a Federal offense? Once (if!) you've answered those, we can then proceed to more interesting questions, such as those concerning the "Fair Game" policy, Operation Freakout against Paulette Cooper, Operation Snow White against the government of the United States, the removal and destruction of any printed works in public libraries that might criticise the "Church", the practice of "dead agenting" which persists to this day, LRH's repeated and fraudulent claims of the "value" of $cientology as a cure for everything and anything, from cancer to myopia and why, if it did cure myopia, did LRH always wear eyeglasses after WW2, though never in public. From what I've seen of the sort of goons that have been hatted to "handle" Usenet, it seems unlikely that you'll even attempt to answer one of the above questions. Never mind. I am patient, so I will keep posting those, and more, until either you do answer them or turn tail and run away, like all the others have done. +-------+ | Culex | "The Infamous Culex" +-------+ ============================================================================== Support Dennis Erlich! Send cheques (any currency) payable to Morrison & Foerster and labelled DENNIS ERLICH DEFENCE FUND to: Carla Oakley/Katie Walsh, MORRISON & FOERSTER, 345 California St, San Francisco CA 94104-2675 Tel (415) 677-7700 For verification of this info, email (Shari Steele) ==============================================================================


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