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From: jsowers@bdm.com (Jim Sowers)
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Subject: Janet Weiland at INFOWARCON 95
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 1995 12:03:32 -0500
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   I spoke briefly with Janet Weiland, Vice President of the Church of
Scientology International, after she approched me at INFOWARCON 95 last
Friday (Sept. 8).  She said she noticed my interest in Scientology's case,
and asked for a business card, which I gave her (I also received one from
her).  I was slightly puzzeled because the only time I spoke with anybody
about the Cof$ that day was when I spoke to a DOJ lawyer (more on that in
another post), and some comments about the Electronic Communications
Privacy Act, and how Cof$, as well as the Secret Service, and Cincinnatti
Police, may have run afoul of the ECPA in their computer seizures.

  I replied that I was a critic, and that I monitored ARS since January,
and it was the actions of Cof$ supporters (i.e., the cancelpoodle) that
got me interested in Information Warfare.  She stated that the Cof$ case
was misunderstood by the general community, and that she had been invited
to the conference by Dr Peter Tippet of the National Computer Security
Association.  She went on to give the standard speel of how the documents
were stolen from the church, and that they were trade secrets, and
protected by copyrights.  I told her that the documents could hardly be
trade secrets when they were available in public records in a federal
court in california.  She maintaned that the sekrit skriptures included
more than just the Fishman affidavit (I don't know which documents she was
referring to, or which cases specifically), and that they were still
stolen, trade secret, copyright documents.  I told her I was unaware of
any of the other documents she mentioned.  At this point we were
interupted as she wanted to talk with one of the speakers at the
conference, who had mentioned Scientology during his presentation.  I
waited a few minutes, then left, hoping to catch her later.  We did speak
again breifly but only to say we would try to continue the conversation
later, which we did not.  I think she left the conference before we could
speek again. 

   After we spoke I noticed Ms. Weiland speaking to another conference
attendee.  I later spoke to him, and noted that I had seen her talking to
him.  I asked why she wanted to talk to him, and he replied that He is a
PI (I do not remember his name, but he worked for a company called Talon
or Talus, but I don't remember exactly), and did some work for the Cof$ in
the past.  He stated that she had asked him if he wanted to do more work
for the Cof$, and he said he didn't.

  BTW Ms. Weilands e-mail adrress is janetweil@aol.com.  (This is a
statement of fact and should not be taken as an invitation, or advocation
of mailbombing, or sending of harrassing mail or death-threats.  I will
not condone such actions against anyone.)    Based on the Church
leadership use of AOL, and the seemingly prefferential treatment of Cof$
by AOL, that there may be something more than just a simple user
relationship between Cof$ and AOL.  It may be something to discuss and
investigate further.

Cheers,

-- 
I'm just a symptom of the moral decay
that's gnawing at the heart of the country.
    ­­ Matt Johnson 
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Jim Sowers <jsowers@bdm.com> Resident Anarchist, BDM Federal Inc.

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