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From: kspaink@xs4all.nl (Karin Spaink)
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
Subject: DUTCH report - update
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 12:42:44 GMT
Organization: St. Passie Beheer
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As of now, there are over *ninety* Fishman-homepages.

Nauta Dutilh, CoS' legal representatives in this matter, have sent
letters again. This time their letter is accompanied by a huge pile of
copies of the "US copyright notices".
	An interesting part of their letter is that they now only object to
page 60 - 123 of the Fishman Affidavit, that is, to the parts taken
from OT1-OTVII. Seeing that they do *not* protest against OTVIII, the
Dutch branch of CoS apparently confirms to Cooley's statement that
OTVIII is a forgery.

While all this legalese was going on, a CoS-guy from California was
flown in last week - Allan Cartwright. Anybody heard of him?
	Cartwright has been heard to say that he's here 'to fix this thing'.
For the past few days, he's been busying himself calling providers and
trying to have a meeting with the participating member of parliament,
Oussama Cherribi (who graciously allowed him to have a short
conversation with his personal assistent, who told him Cherribi
wouldn't comply). Cartwright is obviously trying to wear people &
providers down, hoping that some will give up.
	All phone-conversations are more or less along these lines:
	Cartwright: 'These pages are a copyright infringement. You must remove
them and cancel the accounts of these infringers.'
	Provider X: 'We never remove our users' homepages. Please file a
complaint with the user you mentioned. No, of course we won't give you
his or her name and adress; we'll only do so by court order.'
	Cartwright: 'But our lawyers...."
	Provider X: 'Please adress yourself to *our* lawyer.'
	Cartwright: 'But...'
	Provider X: 'No comment.'

Cherribi and I are still the only people who have received letters
from Nauta Dutilh. We are therefore eligible for a lawsuit, and easier
targets than providers (no hassle involved about whose resposibility
homepages are etc.)
	Cartwright has allegedly stated that he needs to be back (i.e. return
to California) next week.
	We are still wondering whether they'll see things through.

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groet,
     Karin Spaink

- I write, therefore I am:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~kspaink


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