Subject: More of my History on AOL with CofS'ists
From: "Safe"
Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 16:16:17 -0700

(Below should give you a good example of the situation I had with the Church of Scientologists "Group 4" as I had called them as I had catagorized 5 groups of people posting there in an attempt to keep it clear who we were talking about. Today, I call them Church of Scientologists. I hope this history helps give others a small scope of the entrenchment of their minds and perhaps give others an inkling of an idea of how to handle future encounters with them.)

Here's my exact post on AOL ...

Subj: My statement of current situation Date: 11/23/98 7:30:54 PM Pacific Standard Time From: Safe To: Fellow Scientologists

Dear fellow Scientologists, non-Scientologists friends, and all public,

I will try again to rewrite the theta post I wrote last night and posted about what has been going on here. For some reason, a fellow Scientologist got that post deleted. But I'm kind of glad that it happened now because I have some more to say in this rewritten one.

Today makes my 31rst day here since I first posted. It would be interesting to see my total # of posts here but I believe I've broken all records for original and meaningful supportive, discussive posts. We're at a record of over 2459 average daily posts which is about 3 1/2 TIMES what it was since I first arrived just a month ago (700+ before). To me, MORE communication is better, not less. I think Ron would agree with me.

As you know, there has been a little friction here to say the least. Though it's unnecessary for those who have confront. The cause of the disruption to this board has been wrongfully assigned to me from some Scientologists in "group 4".

I've been wrongfully accused of being a basher, an anti-Scientologist, a psychotic, Randy McDonald ...the "SP" and that I should stare a few hours at a rock (by OfficerDOJ), a CS-22 case (by LT Daughter) and on and on. Many yay sayers from group 4 have praised these Scientologists for their non-Scientological behavior. Yet none of them has supplied any proof of their accusations.

In fact, group 4 has not corrected ANY of my statements and told me of my erroring data. In fact they have REFUSED to communicate to me and answer the legitimate questions I have posed. They failed me in their positive and supportive duty of fellowship towards me.

All I do here is post my free opinions and say what I observe to be the truth. I strictly believe in our church code, closely follow our Code of Honor, and a Code of a Scientologist. I'm a Scientologist. I should be able to give my opinions and utter my opinions on others' opinions about our Scientology growth issues. This is right in with the following of our Church Creed and keeping Scientologists and public ACCURATELY informed.

I have a very big distaste for lying, ommissions, squirreling of Rons words, wrong emphasis of importances, which I see are going on in present time. So I speak up, and not neglect it.

The only safe communication line I've found to other Scientologists is the board here. Even this has been unsafe as evidenced by the assaults on my efforts to communicate. If my communication was "entheta" then it would have lies. But there are none I'm aware of.

If somebody can disprove my information I supply, I always stand corrected, because I'm not into telling lies. Of all places, I should feel SAFEST communicating here. Instead of being attacked by critics, I get attacked by my own fellow Scientologists instead.

If I tried to give this data to "proper terminals" through org lines, I'd get shot down and declared in a second. Because all the suppression I know about is not within the service orgs but above them. They'll think I'm just psychotic (like some here do) and they'd say I just have overts. I'd likely get declared and excommunicated from our church.

One OT Class VIII auditor working in the Sea Org who I know really well .... already WARNED me of even filing a report on my observations. He said they would slap an investigation on me so fast and that I'd have to pay for my own security check auditing to find my overts.

So what would you do? If you saw something going on horribly wrong, and the communication lines are cut and shot, but you can't stand to see the 3D overts continue, what would you do? At this point, the AOL board is my only connection to other Scientologists where I feel I'm not going to get threatened for saying something "wrong."

One person said (either LSzipzap or JDavis) said that I started the disruption at my very beginning posts here. This is not true. I'll prove this to you by reposting my first post to this board for you to review for yourself. Then you'll see for yourself who's misleading you, and controlling you by lying.

You see, when I first came here, I was literally shocked at the non-confront of the handling of people on ARS, the picketers, and this board by OSA, PR and the members here.. You see, I know that the first thing to do is to CONFRONT.

Then the second thing to do is to COMMUNICATE. So I did. I couldn't see why there should be such animosity from Scientologists to "critics" or critics to Scientologists. To me this was not ok. I wanted to see peace and high tolerance and ARC for other people's opinions. So I posted what I did below. (see below)

As a result of this, I started getting personally attacked by some in group 4. I became very good friends though with 4 Scientologists and 3 non-Scientologists. We all can see each others' viewpoints and to this day, we all get along peacefully though we disagree with each other regarding our beliefs but we RESPECT each others' beliefs.

What us seven people all agree with is that we don't like to see abuses and basic human rights violations. That's where we all agree.

So just because I "agreed" with some views of the non-Scientologists, I'm attacked as a "anti-Scientologist" which couldn't be further from the truth. Ever since, I've been viciously criticized by reading direct and covert messages about me, I've been TOS'd 4 times. 3 times have been rescinded. (That last one is being worked on right this moment.) Then one person here even recommended to NOT read the messages here!

There is a major 3rd dynamic engram here and many Scientologists here and some others in our church have undisclosed overts. I KNOW that and I know what they are. I've exposed many of them here in my scholarly posts.

Nobody can say I've been "sensibly" attacked here. This dog-like attack is purely because of overts they have. Some of the overts are ...

1) Wrongfully accusing a good Scientologist of being an SP without evidence 2) Criticizing a fellow Scientologist without being specific 3) Name calling a fellow Scientologist 4) Not upholding the purity of tech and lashing out at others who do 5) Totally ignoring the communication of another Scientologist

So there's a few specifics.

Remember, when Bill is mad at Joe. Bill did something to Joe. (not the other way around which it may SEEM)

Also remember about the third party law. The reason I'm getting "done in" is because there is a THIRD PARTY source that is lying to them. Because of the lies, they misunderstand and attack the WRONG TARGET. It's really pretty simple. To terminantly handle all our "wars" with ARS, the picketers, me or anybody else, all we have to do is find this HIDDEN third party that many Scientologists are PTS too.

My feeling is that most of the Scientologists who have attacked me are good, and want to work for the cause of good but have been lied to, misdirected, and cotrolled by a hidden SP.

I truly hope the truth will come out so we can put an end to this strife.

Yours for unplugging all the stops and expanding Scientology, Safe

P.S. Below is my first post to this board as proof to you that it was not an antagonistic post ... like others have claimed. I was calling for experienced Scientologist to handle this situation.

Subject: Audited Grade 4 and up Scientologists and Trained Class 4 Auditors: Stand up Date: 10/21/98 1:59 AM Pacific Standard Time From: Safe Message-id: <19981021055943.06390.00004853@ng-fi1.aol.com>

Hi Fellow Scientologists,

Certainly any actions of the Church of Scientology and the subject of Scientology itself can stand up to being critiqued. We don't have any overts to hide. Any religion that can't be critiqued and stand up to it isn't worth having.

Truth stands on it's own. Truth will blow any of the lies and should readily be apparent to a reasoning person. So educated Scientologists should not be afraid to two-way com with high affinity, reality, and communication with "critics". No doubt we will appear to be very sharp to the public because of our big intelligence (IQ) gains from study and auditing.

There is a difference between a CRITIC and a CYNIC. Cynics I question their sincerety. But critics may have a very intellectual question that deserves answering. Chances are, others have the very same question. Besides, who are we to pass judgement on a critic when we don't have any raw evidence they have evil intentions? We are FREE from fixed conditions and have the ability to communicate freely on ANY subject. That's what makes our technology of life so good!

Remember, we are in a public message board for ALL PUBLIC to view. So we should be able to withstand any criticism without attacking critics who pose questions. We're suppose to always maintain good relations with the public.

Let's certainly not become the effect of critics and have them push our buttons and snap back at them. Keep one's communication course drills in. And lets make sure we answer their questions completely and honestly. Let's start a tradition of really two-way communicating with public using a high degree of kindness and be careful not to ignore what they ask, and not attack them.

We're here to create higher affinity in this world. "Attack mode" is NOT the way towards world peace and happiness. Good communication is.

One of my favorite books by Ron Hubbard is Dianetics 55!

One of my favorite (fair use) quotes is from the forward of the book by Ron It says ...

"Knowledge, Truth, Secrets--they are the guts and anatomy of life. They must not then be owned. They must not then be hidden or bent. They must be permitted to stand out in the bold sunlight for all to see for only when you they are to be seen are they safe things to have, to hold, to know."

L. Ron Hubbard

Yours for happiness in life, Safe

) on AOL.)

Subj: My statement of current situation Date: 11/23/98 7:30:54 PM Pacific Standard Time From: Safe To: Fellow Scientologists

Dear fellow Scientologists, non-Scientologists friends, and all public,

I will try again to rewrite the theta post I wrote last night and posted about what has been going on here. For some reason, a fellow Scientologist got that post deleted. But I'm kind of glad that it happened now because I have some more to say in this rewritten one. Today makes my 31rst day here since I first posted. It would be interesting to see my total # of posts here but I believe I've broken all records for original and meaningful supportive, discussive posts. We're at a record of over 2459 average daily posts which is about 3 1/2 TIMES what it was since I first arrived just a month ago (700+ before). To me, MORE communication is better, not less. I think Ron would agree with me.

As you know, there has been a little friction here to say the least. Though it's unnecessary for those who have confront. The cause of the disruption to this board has been wrongfully assigned to me from some Scientologists in "group 4".

I've been wrongfully accused of being a basher, an anti-Scientologist, a psychotic, Randy McDonald ...the "SP" and that I should stare a few hours at a rock (by OfficerDOJ), a CS-22 case (by LT Daughter) and on and on. Many yay sayers from group 4 have praised these Scientologists for their non-Scientological behavior. Yet none of them has supplied any proof of their accusations.

In fact, group 4 has not corrected ANY of my statements and told me of my erroring data. In fact they have REFUSED to communicate to me and answer the legitimate questions I have posed. They failed me in their positive and supportive duty of fellowship towards me.

All I do here is post my free opinions and say what I observe to be the truth. I strictly believe in our church code, closely follow our Code of Honor, and a Code of a Scientologist. I'm a Scientologist. I should be able to give my opinions and utter my opinions on others' opinions about our Scientology growth issues. This is right in with the following of our Church Creed and keeping Scientologists and public ACCURATELY informed.

I have a very big distaste for lying, ommissions, squirreling of Rons words, wrong emphasis of importances, which I see are going on in present time. So I speak up, and not neglect it.

The only safe communication line I've found to other Scientologists is the board here. Even this has been unsafe as evidenced by the assaults on my efforts to communicate. If my communication was "entheta" then it would have lies. But there are none I'm aware of. If somebody can disprove my information I supply, I always stand corrected, because I'm not into telling lies. Of all places, I should feel SAFEST communicating here. Instead of being attacked by critics, I get attacked by my own fellow Scientologists instead.

If I tried to give this data to "proper terminals" through org lines, I'd get shot down and declared in a second. Because all the suppression I know about is not within the service orgs but above them. They'll think I'm just psychotic (like some here do) and they'd say I just have overts. I'd likely get declared and excommunicated from our church. One OT Class VIII auditor working in the Sea Org who I know really well .... already WARNED me of even filing a report on my observations. He said they would slap an investigation on me so fast and that I'd have to pay for my own security check auditing to find my overts.

So what would you do? If you saw something going on horribly wrong, and the communication lines are cut and shot, but you can't stand to see the 3D overts continue, what would you do? At this point, the AOL board is my only connection to other Scientologists where I feel I'm not going to get threatened for saying something "wrong."

One person said (either LSzipzap or JDavis) said that I started the disruption at my very beginning posts here. This is not true. I'll prove this to you by reposting my first post to this board for you to review for yourself. Then you'll see for yourself who's misleading you, and controlling you by lying.

You see, when I first came here, I was literally shocked at the non-confront of the handling of people on ARS, the picketers, and this board by OSA, PR and the members here.. You see, I know that the first thing to do is to CONFRONT. Then the second thing to do is to COMMUNICATE. So I did. I couldn't see why there should be such animosity from Scientologists to "critics" or critics to Scientologists. To me this was not ok. I wanted to see peace and high tolerance and ARC for other people's opinions. So I posted what I did below. (see below)

As a result of this, I started getting personally attacked by some in group 4. I became very good friends though with 4 Scientologists and 3 non-Scientologists. We all can see each others' viewpoints and to this day, we all get along peacefully though we disagree with each other regarding our beliefs but we RESPECT each others' beliefs. What us seven people all agree with is that we don't like to see abuses and basic human rights violations. That's where we all agree.

So just because I "agreed" with some views of the non-Scientologists, I'm attacked as a "anti-Scientologist" which couldn't be further from the truth. Ever since, I've been viciously criticized by reading direct and covert messages about me, I've been TOS'd 4 times. 3 times have been rescinded. (That last one is being worked on right this moment.) Then one person here even recommended to NOT read the messages here!

There is a major 3rd dynamic engram here and many Scientologists here and some others in our church have undisclosed overts. I KNOW that and I know what they are. I've exposed many of them here in my scholarly posts.

Nobody can say I've been "sensibly" attacked here. This dog-like attack is purely because of overts they have. Some of the overts are ...

1) Wrongfully accusing a good Scientologist of being an SP without evidence 2) Criticizing a fellow Scientologist without being specific 3) Name calling a fellow Scientologist 4) Not upholding the purity of tech and lashing out at others who do 5) Totally ignoring the communication of another Scientologist

So there's a few specifics.

Remember, when Bill is mad at Joe. Bill did something to Joe. (not the other way around which it may SEEM)

Also remember about the third party law. The reason I'm getting "done in" is because there is a THIRD PARTY source that is lying to them. Because of the lies, they misunderstand and attack the WRONG TARGET. It's really pretty simple. To terminantly handle all our "wars" with ARS, the picketers, me or anybody else, all we have to do is find this HIDDEN third party that many Scientologists are PTS too.

My feeling is that most of the Scientologists who have attacked me are good, and want to work for the cause of good but have been lied to, misdirected, and cotrolled by a hidden SP.

I truly hope the truth will come out so we can put an end to this strife.

Yours for unplugging all the stops and expanding Scientology, Safe

P.S. Below is my first post to this board as proof to you that it was not an antagonistic post ... like others have claimed. I was calling for experienced Scientologist to handle this situation.

Subject: Audited Grade 4 and up Scientologists and Trained Class 4 Auditors: Stand up Date: 10/21/98 1:59 AM Pacific Standard Time From: Safe Message-id: <19981021055943.06390.00004853@ng-fi1.aol.com>

Hi Fellow Scientologists,

Certainly any actions of the Church of Scientology and the subject of Scientology itself can stand up to being critiqued. We don't have any overts to hide. Any religion that can't be critiqued and stand up to it isn't worth having.

Truth stands on it's own. Truth will blow any of the lies and should readily be apparent to a reasoning person. So educated Scientologists should not be afraid to two-way com with high affinity, reality, and communication with "critics". No doubt we will appear to be very sharp to the public because of our big intelligence (IQ) gains from study and auditing.

There is a difference between a CRITIC and a CYNIC. Cynics I question their sincerety. But critics may have a very intellectual question that deserves answering. Chances are, others have the very same question. Besides, who are we to pass judgement on a critic when we don't have any raw evidence they have evil intentions? We are FREE from fixed conditions and have the ability to communicate freely on ANY subject. That's what makes our technology of life so good!

Remember, we are in a public message board for ALL PUBLIC to view. So we should be able to withstand any criticism without attacking critics who pose questions. We're suppose to always maintain good relations with the public.

Let's certainly not become the effect of critics and have them push our buttons and snap back at them. Keep one's communication course drills in. And lets make sure we answer their questions completely and honestly. Let's start a tradition of really two-way communicating with public using a high degree of kindness and be careful not to ignore what they ask, and not attack them.

We're here to create higher affinity in this world. "Attack mode" is NOT the way towards world peace and happiness. Good communication is.

One of my favorite books by Ron Hubbard is Dianetics 55!

One of my favorite (fair use) quotes is from the forward of the book by Ron It says ...

"Knowledge, Truth, Secrets--they are the guts and anatomy of life. They must not then be owned. They must not then be hidden or bent. They must be permitted to stand out in the bold sunlight for all to see for only when you they are to be seen are they safe things to have, to hold, to know."

L. Ron Hubbard

Yours for happiness in life, Safe

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