As always, my staff and I work to set the record straight and correct the
lies Christian masters feel compelled to mouth off for their gods.
Cops Think Shooter Had Help
By TED BRIDIS
.c The Associated Press
WEST PADUCAH, Ky. (Dec. 3) - The suspect in the shootings of eight
students in a high school prayer circle might not have acted alone, the
sheriff suggested today.
McCracken County Sheriff Frank Augustus said he had no proof of any plot,
only a gut instinct. He said it was unusual that the boy had brought so many
guns with him unless he was expecting some help from another student.
''I don't believe this boy planned this out by himself,'' Augustus said. ''I
believe there's someone else out there we need to talk to. I think it's
another student,'' he said at a news conference.
''I may be totally out of whack here, but I believe there's someone else
involved.''
Augustus said earlier that the suspect had smuggled spare ammunition, two
rifles and two shotguns into school inside a quilt. The sheriff has said the
boy couldn't explain the shootings.
The 17-year-old senior praised for preventing even more bloodshed at Heath
High School takes little solace in his courage. Ben Strong wishes he had
done more.
Eight students were shot, three fatally, before the gunman obeyed pleas
from Strong to put down his pistol. The suspect was Strong's friend, a
14-year-old freshman identified by friends and others as Michael Carneal.
''Dad, I feel guilty,'' Strong told his father after Monday's shootings.
''I didn't react quickly enough.''
The Rev. Bobby Strong, glad his son was alive, answered: ''Benjamin, I
believe you did all that you could do.''
Witnesses said Carneal, an unexceptional student with no known discipline
problems, fired at least 10 shots from a handgun in the crowded school
lobby minutes before classes started. The shots rang out just after about
35 students in an informal prayer group led by Strong said ''amen.''
Principal Bill Bond said the suspect told him he was sorry, and told a
teacher who watched him until police arrived: ''It was like I was in a
dream, and I woke up.''
Two students remained hospitalized early today. Funeral services for Kayce
Steger, 15, Jessica James, 17, and Nicole Hadley, 14 - will be held Friday.
Ann and John Carneal told their minister, the Rev. Paul Donner, that they
were stunned and couldn't explain what might have motivated their son to
shoot the other students, who included some of his closest friends.
The family declined to talk with reporters. Carneal's sister, a senior,
did not attend classes Tuesday.
''They really feel very deeply for the whole community and the other
families,'' said Donner, who baptized Carneal as an infant at St. Paul's
Lutheran Church.
Donner also said Carneal - described by some as a self-professed atheist
and an occasional heckler of the prayer group - had been confirmed at church
just last spring. Carneal, the minister said, is no atheist.
Carneal was charged as a juvenile with murder, attempted murder and burglary.
Authorities said he stole the guns from a neighbor. He faces a hearing next
Wednesday on whether the case should be moved to adult court.
The day after the shootings, counseling at the 600-student school took center
stage. All but about 50 students returned to the same halls to mourn, lay
flowers and silently pray again. Outside, a handwritten sign said, ''We
forgive you, Mike.''
Counselors spent the morning talking with students, and teachers did their
best to hold regular classes in the afternoon.
''There was very little being said. It was mainly quiet and kids praying,''
guidance counselor Allan Warford said. ''It's a very somber scene inside ...
We're going to be looking at long-term counseling for some of these
students.''
Some students wore white ribbons in honor of the fallen students. Others
wept, hugged their classmates for support and wondered why their friends
had died.
''This is going to go on for a long time,'' said Renelle Grubbs of the
Kentucky Community Crisis Support Board in Frankfort, which sent counselors
to the school. ''This is not going to be over in a day or two.''
Strong led Tuesday's prayer circle, just as he had 24 hours earlier.
''We had just a time of silence for everyone to reflect and pray,'' Strong
said. ''I told them God's the only thing we can turn to in a moment like
this.
''I could have ran over there and tackled him,'' he said. ''Somehow I didn't
act quick enough. In a way, you think, I could have saved a few more people's
lives if I had reacted more quickly.
''I guess after I got to thinking about it, besides getting myself shot,
there wasn't a whole lot I could do that would have been better.''
AP-NY-12-03-97 1445EST
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news report may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or otherwise
distributed without the prior written authority of The Associated Press.
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Monday's senseless deaths of three teenage children in Paducah, Kentucky,
apparently at the hands of a disturbed classmate, have touched off a wave
of sympathy from Americans of all walks of life. The grieving families
deserve all our support. While most Americans have focused on the tragedy
itself, the right wing has sought to exploit the event for political gain.
The Right's rhetoric has exploited the tragedy in two ways. First, some
leaders have sought to describe the victims of the crime as martyrs for the
cause of religious liberty, children who died in defense of organized prayer
in the public schools. Second, some are arguing that the shootings are
evidence of the need for prayer in the schools in order to repair the frayed
fabric of American society. Tellingly, even though the apparent attacker
was reportedly in possession of multiple firearms, the availability of guns
seems to play no role in the right wing's interpretation of events.
The Right's motivation in advancing these lines of argument is plain: in
its effort to build support for its Christian Nation Amendment to the
Constitution -- what it calls the Religious Freedom Amendment -- movement
leaders seek to portray Christians as victims of rampant persecution in
America. Pat Robertson has compared this 1990s treatment of Christians
in America to the situation of Jews during the Holocaust, for example.
Following are several examples of the Right's use of the tragedy:
People For the American Way, 2000 M Street #400
Washington, DC 20036, (202) 467-4999,
http://pfaw.org, pfaw@pfaw.org
Alan Hess:
Of course, the asshole shooter should be drawn and quartered following
conviction. He made the choice to shoot.
Don Martin:
The guy was undersized and "talked funny", apparently, and got
teased for these sins by the bigger, straighter-talking members of the HS
football team.
The prayer meeting was led by those bigger, straighter-talking members of
the HS football team, and the gimp-tongued shrimp was trying to get back
at them.
I noted with interest that the dead were all girls: drawing a bow at a
venture, I would speculate that the girls were both the ones the shooter
wanted the attention of and the ones who laughed the loudest when the
bigger, straighter-talking members of the HS football team did the teasing.
The "hero of the day", the guy who took the gun away from the
shooter, leader of the prayer meeting, and captain of the football team,
stated on-camera that the teasing "was just friendly joshing."
Apparently, the gimp-tongued shrimp didn't appreciate its basic
friendliness.
Karl Schneider:
This was published in the Tulsa World yesterday (Dec 29).
Dear Editor:
Reader Bill Kumpe expressed some outrage (People's Voice, Dec. 14) for
the 'lack of publicity' on the High School killings in Paducah,
apparenty placing the blame for both the massacre and his perceived
suppression of coverage on 'anti-Christian bias'.
I have also noticed a paucity of comments concerning the fact that
this tragedy occurred during an activity specifically addressed by
the presumed object of their faith, Jesus, in Matthew 6:5.
It isn't my intention to make any conclusions about Mr. Kumpe's
take on Scripture, but I have met many people who are much more
adept at thumping Bibles than at reading them.
Sincerely,
Karl Schneider
A self-described community activist is charging that officials in
Paducah, Kentucky are "wholly and directly" responsible for events
which may have resulted in a shooting spree which killed three and
injured five other students at Heath High School on Monday, December
1, 1997.
A 14-year old youth identified as Michael Carneal has been charged
in that incident. Early media reports identified Carneal as an
"atheist" with possible ties to other students who heckled a
Christian prayer group that assembled in the high school lobby each
day prior to class. It quickly became evident, however, that Carneal
was neither an atheist nor a "nonbeliever," and his family's Lutheran
minister said that the shooting "was the act of a sinful Christian."
For much of America's freethought community, the Paducah story has
faded now that the "atheist connection" is no longer media fodder.
Despite efforts by religious groups to capitalize on the tragedy by
suggesting that Carneal, and the entire incident, was somehow
symptomatic of moral decline in public schools, the 14 year old has
been portrayed as a bright but troubled youth whose motivations remain
unclear.
End of story.
But Georgia-based atheist and community activist Charles Schrader
says, "Not so fast!" Schrader, a 60-year old retired Marine ("I fear
no sonofabitch on this planet") has developed a reputation as a
regional spokesman on behalf of civil liberties and individual rights.
He's challenged closed meetings of government bodies, and spoken on in
defense of public access at such events.
And he's taking on his hometown of Paducah, Kentucky.
For Charles Schrader, there is a stench of official negligence
surrounding the Heath High School tragedy involving school board
officials, teachers, school administrators, the high school principal,
and possible even the McCracken County District Attorney's Office.
And his rendition of events before and after the shooting differ
significantly from what Americans have been reading and seeing in the
mass media. Schrader claims that important information is being
ignored, even suppressed; and on January 15, he intends to go before
the McCracken County School Board to voice his complains. The Board
has thus far refused Schrader's request to speak, and the community
activist says that, if necessary, he will take his case to the news
media.
Schrader's information comes from "sources" that he will not
specifically identify; in a conversation with this writer and American
Atheists President Ellen Johnson, however, he agreed that he would
turn over both his sources and his full information about conditions
at Heath High School to reporters or news teams from any major
national media that took an interest in the case. "There are no
secrets in Paducah," Schrader declared, defending his present
reticence about identifying the source of his information.
And the information is, potentially, damaging to public officials.
Among Schrader's allegations:
* A climate of fear and intimidation was rampant at Heath High
School in the days leading up to the shooting. "Christian athletes
were loose in the halls," and students were required to pass through
what Schrader describes as a "gauntlet" of prayer warriors exhorting
their fellows to join the Agape prayer circle, or wear wrist bracelets
now popular with religious youth inscribed with the legend "What Would
Jesus Say?" The Agape group -- a recognized student organization at
Heath High School -- was "proselytizing and running amok," and that
"it was decided by unnamed officials in the school to ignore the
contentious ongoing confrontations... between the believers, non
believers and those students who felt it wasn't the proper place for
church and all they wanted was an education and to get to their
lockers without being accosted."
* Students weren't the only people gathering in the pre-class
prayer circle which formed each morning in the lobby of Heath High
School. Teachers were present, charges Schrader -- and maybe school
principal Bill Bond. Schrader adds that this presence had the effect
of encouraging the prayer group in its proselytizing efforts.
* Other teachers did complain about the proselytizing, says
Schrader, with whom "the prayer thing was a contentious issue." Some
reportedly told principal Bill Bond, "We're setting ourselves up for a
confrontation that will be difficult to explain to lawyers, parents
and the school board." One suggestion was to comply with the Equal
Access law, and move the Christian athletes and other Agape members to
a room away from the lobby where they would not be blocking traffic.
Schrader told us that "some students entering the lobby at Heath High
School before classes would be blocked by the assembled members of the
prayer group and had to move around them." Would any other student
group -- say, a hypothetical group of Student Atheists -- be accorded
the privilege of assembling in the lobby of the school during a "high
traffic" time period?
* Immediately after the shooting, charges Schrader, as the
spotlight of media attention turned on Paducah and Heath High School,
Mr. Bond purportedly remarked that in any subsequent assessment of the
tragic events of Monday, December 1, "I am not going to be perceived
as a Christian basher..."
* "Local Christian influences (in Paducah) are felt up and down the
chain of command in the school system..."
* School officials blatantly violated the Equal Access Act,
charges Schrader, by giving too much latitude to the Agape group, and
ignoring complaints. Schrader adds that such complaints were lodged
by students who were "sick and tired of the proselytizing" by the
Christian athletes in particular; he charges Bond with "stonewalling"
information which includes written complaints and/or a written record
of such complaints. In a statement to the Henry Herald newspaper on
December 10, 1997, Schrader wrote: "I question why these students were
permitted to hold their prayers in the main entrance of the school
making it difficult for anyone who enters to avoid their prayer
meeting in progress causing or forcing a confrontation with the
praying students."
Principal Bond disputes any description of the school, however, as
resembling a confrontational zone where "prayer warrior" students were
harassing their classmates; he also contradicts the early media
reports which said that Carneal and a group of "nonbelievers" were
involved in confrontations with Agape. On December 3, 1997, CNN
reported: "Bond said he never saw Carneal 'or any other child heckling
the prayer group. I never saw that occur. To my knowledge he
(Carneal) was not a member of any organized group other than the
band,' the principal said."
Michael Carneal, the 14 year old charged in the shootings who was
prematurely identified as an "atheist" (and possibly even part of a
group of "nonbelievers" who supposedly confronted the prayer circle),
is the son of a local attorney; his family worships at St. Paul's
Lutheran Church. Media accounts which discuss Carneal, and the
sequence of events leading up to and including December 1, report that
Carneal maintained a peculiar friendship with Ben Strong, age 17, who
ironically was the leader of the Agape prayer group and a member of
the football team. Carneal supposedly warned Strong and others to
avoid joining in the prayer activities on that fateful Monday morning.
"Don't come because I'm going to do something," Strong quoted
Carneal as saying. Strong then jokingly responded, "I'll beat you up
if you do."
"We were just joking around because we always joke like that," he
told CNN following the shooting.
Schrader minimizes the reports of friendship between Carneal and
Strong, however. Any warning to Strong, insists Schrader, was an
effort to impress the larger and older boy. He also disputes the
friendly tone of the "I'll beat you up..." remark which Strong says he
made to Michael Carneal.
"I find it interesting," says Schrader, "that the student prayer
leader allegedly admitted that after he learned the shooter would
confront the prayer meeting he in turn threatened the student
(Carneal) with, 'I'll beat you up if you do.' It doesn't escape us
(that) the 'hero' prayer leader is a 17-year old strapping football
player and son of a minister speaking to a small in stature 14-year
old who was obviously fearful, confused and took exception to the
group leader holding forth with a sectarian event he was unable to
avoid..."
One problem not addressed by Schrader or, indeed, just about any
other explanation for the shootings involves the targets. Of the 30
to 35 students involved in the Monday morning prayer gathering in the
lobby, eight we hit by the gunfire. Three girls were killed, and five
other students -- three of them girls -- wounded. Carneal has been
described as calmly putting on ear plugs, and firing "randomly" into
the crowd with a .22 caliber semi-automatic pistol which, moments
before, he had removed from a back pack.
Ben Strong told CNN that "he worried about what Carneal had said
but did not tell any adults (about the warning) because he felt it
would only agitate Carneal more if there were teachers present at the
prayer meeting..." Schrader says he does not have definitive
information as to whether or not principal Bill Bond and/or teachers
were present on Monday, December 1; but Mr. Schrader indicates that
"according to his sources," school personnel were present and active
in other Agape gatherings in the school lobby.
CNN added in a December 2, 1997 dispatch that "Carneal intended to
shoot someone and knew what he was doing, Strong said, 'but when he
saw he had shot one of his best friends, he saw it wasn't a prank.'"
Nagging questions remain, however, concerning the discrepancies
between many media accounts and Mr. Schrader's claims. Six of the
eight victims were girls; the targets, if selected deliberately or as
part of a pattern by Michael Carneal, were not the hulking "Christian
athletes" said to forming gauntlets in the hallways of Heath High
School. And there is a problem of demonstrating causal links between
Carneal's alleged actions, and the atmosphere which may have existed
at the school. A permissive atmosphere where student "prayer
warriors" were given special latitude and perhaps even encouragement
by negligent officials may not have "caused" Carneal's actions. If
anything, Carneal's behavior remains an enigma, and officials have yet
to find any conclusive explanation for why he opened fire on his
fellow students. Even so, Schrader's charges pertaining the
atmosphere at Heath High School, have serious implications.
Charles Schrader had hoped to address the McCracken County School
Board during its January 15, 1998 meeting and had formally requested
the opportunity to do so in a faxed communication to Larry Wilson,
Chairman of the Board which was sent on December 15, 1997. He insists
that school board authorities, and Heath High School Principal Bill
Bond "are on the spot," if their alleged role in violating portions of
the federal Equal Access act or other regulations concerning religious
activities in public schools are brought to light. Only a full
investigation, says Schrader, can do that.
Charles Schrader now reports that "at least two" of the victims'
families have retained legal counsel "to explore a civil action,"
though he does not say what the basis of that action might be. And in
addition to his suggestion that principal Bill Bond and school board
authorities are deliberately sitting on complaints lodged either
verbally or in writing (or both) against the prayer group for blocking
access, harassment and other coercive tactics, he also alludes to an
equally dark motivation concerning the whereabouts of Michael Carneal.
Media sources in Paducah reported, as of Thursday, that "Carneal
remains incarcerated at a juvenile detention facility in the central
part of the state." Indeed, Carneal's present status is a bit of a
mystery, and no statements have been reported from the 14-year old,
except those passed on by law enforcement authorities, such as Sheriff
Frank Augustus. As reported earlier in aanews, it was Augustus who
"had a gut feeling" that others were involved with Michael Carneal; he
cited the fact that Carneal had smuggled four other guns besides the
.22 caliber pistol into school, along with over 200 rounds of
ammunition. "I don't believe this boy planned this out by himself,"
Augustus told reporters on December 5, well at the start of
a comprehensive investigation into Carneal .
Augustus also disputes Commonwealth Attorney Timothy Kaltenbach's
suggestion that Carneal may have been motivated by an scene in the
movie "The Basketball Diaries." Carneal allegedly disclosed, under
questioning, that he had seen the film, where a character played by
Leonardo DiCaprio has a dream sequence where he breaks down a door
with a religious symbol and begins shooting fellow students at a
Catholic school. Carneal "merely mentioned the scene," reported CNN.
For Charles Schrader, the possible lack of access to Carneal -- and
the fact that what access does exist seems to be tightly controlled --
suggests the possibility of certain information being concealed,
ignored or filtered. Those with a stake in the Carneal case,
including the County District Attorney, "don't want Carneal talking"
about the climate in Heath High School, or the activities of the
"Christian athletes" and other members of the prayer circle. Schrader
says that he has knowledge of, and will allege, that "the board of
education, superintendent of schools, principal, faculty and staff of
Heath High School knew of the confrontations coming out of the
proselytizing AGAPE club, had prior knowledge alleged by complaints
posted to school authorities, and did nothing about it."
There is also a report published in Thursday's edition of the
Paducah Sun newspaper that the FBI has been called in to examine
Michael Carneal's home computer "for evidence that might tell local
investigators what motivated the Heath High School shooting rampage
and to determine if anyone was involved." According to the story,
Sheriff Augustus said that a "preliminary review" of the computer's
contents "failed to uncover any documents or writings related to the
Dec. 1 shooting."
Augustus adds that he is requesting federal help in an effort to
recover erased files or messages; he repeated his claim that he
"believes more people were involved" with Carneal prior to the
shooting.
While some might challenge Mr. Schrader's allegations, it is clear
that members of the McCracken School Board do not wish him to address
that, or any other public meeting, and raise questions about the
climate at Heath High School prior to December 1. It is also obvious
that on an official level, the investigative focus of Sheriff Augustus
involve "hunches" and "gut feelings" that Carneal's actions have to do
with a yet-to-be-discovered group of some kind. There is no
indication that at the official level, police or school authorities
are looking into school policies for any explanation of the December 1
events.
Others might disagree with Schrader's assertion that he holds
officials at Heath, and on the County School Board, "directly
responsible" for the tragedy on December 1. But was there a climate
of intimidation fostered by a malevolent combination of "prayer
warrior" exuberance and official neglect --even encouragement -- that
led at least some students at Heath High School to feel imposed upon,
harassed and even victimized? Did principal Bond or other school
officials turn a blind eye to written or verbal complaints? Those
remain as serious charges; and while they may not exonerate the
actions of a lone shooter, they certainly can not be ignored or
suppressed in the hopes that the tragedy of December 1, 1997 will pass
into history, and with it the memories of dead and wounded youngsters.
Return to The Skeptic Tank's main Index page.
Right Wing Watch Online, #1.14 December 6, 1997.
The latest asshole teenager to shoot up a high school did so after a prayer
meeting. One can only hope that nobody at that prayer meeting was wishing
any of his or her fellow students dead for some real or perceived slight, or
that person may be overcome with guilt, as in "what if god chose to
answer my wish, and that got everyone hurt and killed?"
I was concerned that he might have been a deranged atheist taking arms
against a violation of the separation of church and state in his high school.
It turns out to be more ordinary and a great deal more sad, according to
stuff on last night's NBC News.
Funny, none of the victims friends/families have commented on the
apparent inability of the deity they were praying to, to give them
a little assistance. If none had died, you can bet your sweet bippy
they'd have all been 'thanking gawd' for it.
Editor
Tulsa World
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Tulsa, OK 74103
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