This one is kind of interesting. I have heard a Creationist claim that "scientists" (whoever they were) drop fossils from airplanes -- presumably in a "Satanic" attempt to deceive humanity.

I've also heard another Creationist claim that "scientists" (whoever they were) carve dinosaur bones out of soft rock and that's how fossils are created (again, presumably as a "Satanic" conspiracy of some kind.)

Here's another Creationist following in those same footprints (yes, the pun which you'll be seeing later certainly is intended!) This is one of the Creationist cultists who has managed to convince himself that humans lives at the same time that dinosaurs did -- never mind the fact that they existed some 180 million years ago or so.

His need to believe that humans lived at the same time as dinosaurs did is based upon his religious occultism, not upon spending too many early mornings watching cartoon episodes of "The Flintstones."

You'll note that the Creationist claims that fresh, unfossilized dinosaur bones have been found somewhere and, like every Creationist lie, there is no specific, testable references offered. - flr

Mon 10 Nov 97 18:05

Invented Dinosaurs!

Alec Grynspan:
Laurie's scientific acumen shows itself here, where he accuses evilutionists of inventing new dinosaurs to whitewash Paluxy.

It seems that a three-toed dinosaur walking flat-footed is really several new types of dinosaurs!

Heiko Diekmann:
The "human" prints in Taylor's film and other creationist works were often lacking in detail, and fell short of the strong claims about them. Yet some of the pictured trails did appear to consist of striding sequences of roughly human-like footprints, any previously known dinosaur tracks. A mystery remained.

My Own Investigations Begin

When we selectively applied water to the markings, we found that we could closely replicate the features in creationist photos.

Laurie Appleton:
Uh huh! Just fancy that eh?

Heiko Diekmann:
While removing the sediment and debris from the site, we soon saw that the alleged "man tracks" there were real elongate footprints, occurring in left-right striding trails. And some did have roughly humanlike shapes.

Laurie Appleton:
Hmmmm... Surprise surprise!

Heiko Diekmann:
But as we exposed and cleaned more of the site, we found that at least some prints in each trail splayed widely at the anterior end, and/or exhibited shallow traces of long, tridactyl, digit patterns--more compatible with dinosaur toes than human ones.

Laurie Appleton:
Since elsewhere your 'authority' spoke of "metatarsal" type prints, I wonder why he now speaks of "tridactyl" as being typically dinosaurian?

Heiko Diekmann:
It became increasingly apparent that the alleged "man tracks" at the site were neither human footprints, nor merely eroded specimens of typical three-toed dinosaur tracks (as suggested by the Loma Linda team), but evidently some type of unusual dinosaur tracks with elongate "heels."

Laurie Appleton:
Ah ha! So we have to 'invent' a new kind of dinosaur to try to get around the 'problem' do we? One that has a foot bone structure more like humans eh? What a shame that evolutionists could NOT, on "principle", opt for an Orangutan or an Australopithecine to 'explain' those footprints!! Here again they were doubtless "constrained" by their other 'considerations' of the TIME question eh?

Heiko Diekmann:
Metatarsal Dinosaur Tracks Recognized

In more technical terms, my thesis was that these dinosaurian trackmakers evidently had, for some reason, walked in a basically flat-footed or "plantigrade" fashion--rather than impressing their toes only in a "digitigrade" fashion, as is more typical for bipedal dinosaurs.

Laurie Appleton:
The plot starts to become distinctly "murky" here and lacks any sort of "positive refutation" of the man tracks at all, as we sally forth into conjecture and speculation of all sorts of things!

Heiko Diekmann:
But whatever the reason for their shallowness, the anterior impressions definitely indicated long, tridactyl digit patterns compatible with dinosaur feet and inconsistent with human ones.

Laurie Appleton:
Oops! Our dinosaur tracks have now "flipped" back to "tridactyl" ones and the "Metatarsal Dinosaur Tracks" idea seems to be put aside for the moment. VERY 'convincing' indeed!

Heiko Diekmann:
The "man track" advocates had apparently overlooked these anterior features, and instead focused on the oblong, roughly-humanlike metatarsal section at the rear.

Laurie Appleton:
Human-like! Perhaps there were "human like" animals at the time of dinosaurs then just as there were "mammal like reptiles" too eh? Give your 'authority' good marks for imagination shall we, even if we cannot accept that he has really explained anything at all?

Heiko Diekmann:
While delving into the scientific literature on dinosaur tracks, I could find no previous reports of metatarsal dinosaur tracks in striding trails,

Laurie Appleton:
Hmmm... hardly surprising! Our friend seems to be in trouble doesn't he?

Heiko Diekmann:
Several in striding sequence were dinosaur tracks with partial metatarsal impressions; these Baugh had identified as human tracks overlapping dinosaur tracks.

Laurie Appleton:
Ah! "partial" metatarsal (another unknown dinosaur?) impressions bob up this time eh? This is certainly very very profound and "convincing" research! As I said, since we have now found unfossilized and "fresh" dinosaur bones anyway, all the above musings, conjectures and profound investigation, becomes totally meaningless anyway, doesn't it?

Thanks for trying and doing your very very level best anyway!