Nut Liars! Scientology expert on
'Reeducation camps?!' Huh?!
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Subject: 'Reeducation camps?!' Huh?!

RebaFan asked this question on 4/24/2000:

I read here that the Church has "forced labor reeducation camps." I refuse to believe it! I can barely believe that Hubbard was a Satanists, though I see that is true judging by the internet articles I've read --- but forced labor camps?! That's just too much to ask me to believe!

Greg Churilov again couldn't answer the question on 4/24/2000, saying:

Rebafan, your veiled attempts at discrediting my religion are silly and obvious. And Mr. Hubbard was no more Satanist than you or me. So skip the lies in the future.

Scientology doesn't have "forced labor camps". That would be nuts.

[In fact the criminal cult does. It's called the "Rehabilitation Project Force" and it is a place where cult followers are sent when they ask questions or, in some cases, talk about escaping the cult. One can see a good review of this prison camp in the document Brainwashing in the Rehabilitation Project Force. This is a must read documents that covers the cult's human-rights violations in detail - flr]

Scientology does have a special VOLUNTARY penance program for its religious hierarchy leading a monastic life. This program is NOT extended to lay people or the everyday parishioner. It is only tology Religious Order known as the Sea Organization.

[That's a lie. The RPF is feared and hated by every cult follower who has been in long enough to find out about it -- or get physically kidnapped and shipped off for re-education. It's no where near "voluntary" any more than drug pushers "voluntarily" send themselves to prison.

There's a good review of this inhuman Constitutional, civil, and Human rights violation in a documentary called "Missing in Happy Valley." This "Happy Valley" is a location near Gilman Hot Springs, located near Hemet, California, that is where one of the more well known and infamous gulags are located.

Also, one can see children being used as slave labor in the PRF in photographs posted on the Internet - flr]

This program is called the Rehabilitation Project Force. It is a great solution for rehabilitating the Church's monastic workers who committed heavy enough infractions to be thrown out of the order, but who ask for a second chance. The program consists of a daily routine of eight hours of work followed by five hours of study and counseling, followed by a good night's rest.

[More utterly profound lies. In addition to 12 hours of stoop-labor (usually spent cleaning the cult's property) the cult also breaks the will of their prisoners by making them run around flag poles, one hour clockwise, the next counter-clockwise.

What this cultist doesn't mention is that when someone is put into this prison, they're ordered not to talk and nobody outside of the prison -- or the prision guards -- are allowed to talk to the inmates. And that includes the children of victims sent to this prison! - flr]

Programs like these exist in any monastic community and Scientology is no different.

[Oh yes, Mormons and Jews all have prison work camps that followers get sent to when they ask questions about their own religions. Sure! - flr]

I am not just quoting anyone, I personally participated in the Rehabilitation Project Force. In my personal case family responsibilities took priority and I regretfully left the order. It was a sad moment for me, but I was ready for a more secular life.

[How utterly insane - flr]

I made some wonderful friends and had some spectacular personal gains while on the RPF.

[Notice the robotic, brainwashed, programmed response? You should. The only way to get out of this prison is to write a statement listing all of these "wins" and containing "confessions" which is exactly what Pol Pot did to his political prisoners in his re-education camps. Hubbard even wrote about using these brainwashing methods. So this cultist was forced to write up these "big wins" in order to regain his freedom. It's designed to reaffirm the brainwashing - flr]

But I accept that it was a rigorous program and that some might view it as a tough life.

However, here are some facts:

While in the RPF, I did get three excellent meals a day in the Church's cafeteria (stuff like beef wellington, etc.); I had excellent medical and dental coverage (I had a wisdom tooth act up), I got plenty of rest as mandatory during the program (one needs to be well rested to accept Scientology counseling or to attend study), and I was treated fairly and with dignity and kindness.

[And that's utter nonsense. People who manage to escape from the cult cover the activities that go on in these prison work camps quite differently, offering the cult's own in-house documents as evidence otherwise.

Hubbard wrote that people imprisoned in these work camps were to be given "short rations." If they incured additional disfavor with the jailors, their rations were to be cut even more.

And note no mention of the fact that parents aren't allowed to visit their own children while undergoing re-education - flr]

So if that is supposed to be some "camp", it failed miserably :-) For me, it was a valuable spiritual experience, and I really with I had allowed myself the time to finish the program. I know of several friends of mine who stuck with it and today they occupy positions of responsibility within the Church's management structure. I admire their commitment. best, Sirit

[In fact, to judge by the brainwashed, programmed response, the re-education camps were a resounding success in this case - flr]




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