Notice: Fredric Rice may have removed segments of the replies given to questions if they contained copoyrighted materials. After a very short while, Scientology "experts" refused to answer questions and started cut-and-pasting copyrighted cult propaganda. Additionally I removed URLs in some of the replies, and left them in others. And it's also important to note that eventually the unfortunate "Greg Churilov" cultist was ejected from askme.com for his typical Scientological behavior.

Subject: Revenge?

monupics asked this question on 4/18/2000:

I posted a message to ARS encouraging critics to get involved on AskMe.com -- before that the cult had this site to itself. Will you now seek revenge against me? Will you send your lawyers and private investigators to hunt me down? Why not -- isn't that what you do to those who criticize your cult?

Greg Churilov gave this insane response on 4/19/2000:

I truly feel sad for you. You either have a lot of anger and venom that you need to spew at the world, or somehow you have been hugely misinformed about Scientology. Do you really believe that the Church of Scientology would have received Religious recognition from the United States Supreme Court, and tax exemption from the IRS if all the lies in ARS were true?

Do you really believe Scientology would be nationally recognized by Gover l over the World, and receive a letter of blessing from the Pope's envoy, if all that slanderous garbage were true?

[The cult's ringleaders appear to be telling its followers that the Catholic Pope is at heart a Scientologist or something equally insane. One has to wonder what the cult's ringleaders are telling their followers that would result in this unfortunate claim - flr]

You do not need to follow my path. But do you really need to piss on my path while traveling yours?

All you have done is cause great harm.

[See, asking questions about Scientology "vcauses great harm" to the revenues of the Scientology crime syndicate's ringleaders - flr]

This used to be a message board where those who had concerns or questions got honest genuine answers from actual Scientologists. Now it is full of pernicious little minds who only seek to spread lies and cause upset. I forgive you. I hope you can forgive yourself. best, Spirit

[Translation: He and his fellow cult followers used to be able to state any lie no matter how profoundly easy it was to prove a lie without any fear of having the truth shoved up their noses. Now that some real experts on Scientology have volunteered their time to assist answering questions about Scientology, these cutlists fear the wrath of their cult leaders every Thursday at 2:00 p.m. when "stats" -- in the jargon of the cult " are tabulated for the week - flr]

monupics then asked this follow-up question on 4/20/2000:

It is I who feel sad for you. Do you really believe these lies you've been told to spread. Do you *really* believe the POPE has endorsed Scientology?? What planet are you living on? As for governments, they have NOT recognized your beliefs -- merely your right to have them. The U.S. Supreme Court held that Scientology is NOT a religion, only to have its decision undermined by the IRS. Is this what they're telling you?

I think you need to start asking your qestions, because they have armed you with ignorance and sent you to battle us Wogs. The result is that we know more about Scietology than you do, and you end up looking the fool.

Doesn't that hurt? Why would Scientology betray your trust like that.

As for my "Revenge?" question, did you know that Scientology sends picketers to the *homes* of critics? Did you know they send private investigators to ruin their lives?

Are these the actions of "the most ethical people on the planet?"

Or is the world reallyt as one-sided as you think?

Greg Churilov, ignoring the solid debunking he was just subjected to, then gave this utterly insane lie on 4/20/2000:

The Pope does not "endorse" Scientology, simply recognizes it as an organization of good will. I was personally present in Berlin in October 1997, where the Pope's Envoy read a document to that effect in front of 12,000 people.

[Funny how the rest of the world some how managed to miss hearing about this miracle, isn't it? - flr]

The US Government not only recognizes Scientology, but supports it in its quest for religious freedom in other Countries. Which is the basis for America after all, freedom of Religion. You need not believ my right to practice as I choose.

[And that's a profound lie. The United States government does not and will never dictate what is a religion and what isn't a religion. The United States doesn't "recognize" Scientology since that's not Constitutional. The government doesn't "recognize" any religion.

Also the United Statews government does not "support" the crime syndicate's "quest for religious freedom" anywhere, leave alone in other countries. What the Scientology crooks did was try to use their brainwashed actors to try to get the United States to put pressure on other countries to force them to stop raiding, arresting, and imprisoning Scientology ringleaders for the crimes they commit.

A good example is France where several cult ringleaders were found guilty of numerous crimes based in part on tape recordings taken of the crooks deliberately engaging in fraud to rook their victims (in fact the good guys tapped the crook's telephone and on the first call the crooks were totally and absolutely fucked from then on. Busted!)

The Scientology crooks in Los Angeles ordered their brainwashed actors to pressure a few Senators into trying to force France to drop all the charges on this "religion" when in fact it wasn't the cult that was being arrested and imprisoned all around the world, it was (and continues to be) the individual crooks following Hubbard's criminal policies that were getting arrested and sent to prison.

Fortunately progress is being made and the Scientology crime syndicate is getting booted out of countries and accurately labled a criminal organization exactly equal to the Italian Mafia - flr]

The US Supreme Court has for years officially recognized Scientology as a bonafide Reliogion with "the same rights as any other Church, Catholic, Protestant, or other".

[And that's nonsense. The USSC has not and never will dictate what is a religion and what isn't a religion. Not only isn't that their job, but doing so would viuolate the Constitution of the United States. The USSC doesn't violate the Constitution, for Xenu's sake!

But at least this lie gives a good insight into what the cult's ringleaders are trying to make their followers swallow, hook, line, and sinker - flr]

In regards to "battling Wogs", that is just silly. I am not out to "battle" anyone. As Scientologists, all that is expected of us is that we live ethical lives and use Scientology to better ourselves.

[And just please ignore every one of Hubbard's policies - flr]

There is no "holy war".

Scientology is non-denominational.

[<laughing> We'll take anybody's money - flr]

In regards to your last paragraph; you openly attack a struggling new Religion in a Country based on principles of Freedom of Faith, and then you expect to debate ETHICS with me? Spirit

[Once again the cultist wants to pretend that asking questions about the cult is some how an "attack." Amazing - flr]

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