Notice: Fredric Rice may have removed segments of the replies given to
questions if they contained copoyrighted materials. After a very short
while, Scientology "experts" refused to answer questions and
started cut-and-pasting copyrighted cult propaganda. Additionally I
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also important to note that eventually the unfortunate "Greg
Churilov" cultist was ejected from
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Anonymous asked this question on 4/23/2000:
What could L. Ron Hubbard tell you that you wouldn't believe, if he
were alive today?
Greg Churilov couldn't answer this question honestly on 4/23/2000:
Another effort to attack my Religion.
Jeez I thought we had a First Ammendment going.
Oh well. I can't speculate about what L. Ron Hubbard woud say or do
if he were alive. He passed away in 1986.
Scientology is not a personality cult.
That's Scientology for you: Making the able more able - flr]
It is a body of knowledge and an applied philosophy.
In fact the philosophy of Scientology can be seen quite well in the
many documents that the Feds seized from the criminal cult which are now
available on the Internet.
As an aside, many more documents that are available that fully
describe the philosophy of Scientology will become public domain in the
year 2009 since that will be 25 years after the mad messiah's death. On
that day, the Scientology crooks will be faced with even more embarassing
problems trying to keep their brainwashed followers paying that money - flr]
Scientology techniques work for me not because Mr.Hubbard said so, but
because the techniques are EFFECTIVE. Now, there iology's critics can't
seem to make. That is the difference between the PRACTICE of Scientology
and the RESEARCH & DISCOVERY conducted by L.Ron Hubbard.
What makes up the practice of Scientology are a vast number of
effective techniques, self-betterment exercises, courses and guidelines
for counseling, which are applied EVERY DAY with SPECTACULAR results
all over the World.
What makes up the hundreds of lectures and thousands of writings of
L.Ron Hubbard during his long years of research contains a lot of
speculation, hit-or-miss, experimentation, thesis and hypothesis, hard
work, and so on.
Some times in his lectures Mr.Hubbard went completely off the subject
and entertained his audience with a joke or an anecdote. Sometimes
he speculated about "what ifs" about this universe. Some of his
lectures contain references to UFOs. Some include stuff about then-
president Richard Nixon, or about the Cold War, or about sailing.
Some lectures include talks about photography (a hobby of Mr.
Hubbard's).
For instance, Hubbard fear and hatred of women comes out in numerous
audio taped lectures that Hubbard rooked his victims with. How does the
cult's ringleaders handle these embarrassing things that Hubbard had to
say? It was all a big joke. Yeah, that's all it is. Just Jokes. Sure - flr]
He would occasionally speculate wildly about our origins as a species
or our place in the Universe.
I am not a believer or non-believer of these long dissertations where
he shared his thoughts, while he conducted research into the unmapped
areas of the human mind and spirit.
I am satisfied applying the Scientology tecniques to my life and
seeing how all areas of my life improve as a result. Scientology is
not about belief or about faith. That is a very personal and
individual thing.
Scientology is about improving conditions in life. best,
Further facts
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Subject: L. Ron Hubbard
[Good grief. But this one offers a rather telling insight into the
Scientology cult. Ask any question about Hubbard and the cultist
is programmed to automatically equate Scientology with Hubbard, and
Scientology with "religion." This shows that the Scientology
crooks make L. Ron Hubbard their insane messiah. With Christianity, if
one asks a question about Jesus Christ, one would be asking about the
religion of Christianity. The Scientology crime syndicate apparently
tries to inflict their cult followers with the same notion. Only the
Scientology crooks program their followers to pretend that any question
about Hubbard is some how an "attack." How utterly insane - flr]
[<laughing> This cultist doesn't appear to know what the First
Ammendment contains - flr]
[Actually he died screaming from what looks like a drug overdose while
on the lam from the law on a ranch in Northern California. The crooks
pulled some fast ones to get Hubbard's remains safely destroyed so that
the cause for what killed him could never be proven to the satisfaction
of a court in the event murder charges were ever brought against David
Miscavage or any of the other ringleaders who stood to seize the massive
amounts of money Hubbard squirreled away (Lt. Emmons' report covers
over 200 million dollars that the Feds were able to find easily, by
the way. There's no telling how much money he managed to rook from the
ignorant, gullible followers like this one - flr]
[How insane. Ask a question about Hubbard and the cultist is programmed to
equate it as an attack on his "religion." Then in the next
breath the cultist demands that Scientology isn't a personality cult.
[Presumably the flying saucers, Xenu, invisible murdered space aliens
that form "body thetans" and all the other insane notions that
their mad messiah concocted in his drug-indiced hallucinations constitute
a "body of knowledge" and an "applied philosophy."
[Timothy Leary also did the same "research" that Hubbard did. Only
Timothy Leary didn't create a criminal organization out of his drug-inducted
hallucinations - flr]
[Funny how the cultist doesn't provide testable refernces. And it's also
amusing to note that the criminal organization is getting raided and
busted all over the world and that 69 of the ringleaders were busted
in Spain with 18 still up on charges. Indeed, the mock "International
President" Heber Jentzsch that used to wait tables for Hubbard is
facing 30 years in a Madrid prison if Spain decides to go after the
ringleader. But that's okay; Hubbard gave him the title "International
President" to specifically use him as a fall guy to take the rap
to buffer Hubbard from the long arms of the law - flr]
[Presumably taking psychoactive and illegal drugs constitutes "hard
work" in the Scientology crime syndicate - flr]
[And that's a lie which probably allows this cultist to excuse some of
the insane, stupid, obviously false, and criminal statements and policies
that Hubbard came up with.
[So when this cultist finally scrapes up enough money to purchase OT3 and
find out about Xenu and body thetans and the insane notion that the universe
is 75 billion or 75 trillion years old, he can pass it all off as some kind
of "wild speculation" or a joke. But the fact is that all the
so-called "New era dianetics" bait-and-switch scams that the
happless cult follower is forced to purchase from then on is predicated upon
this drug-inducted hallucination of Hubbard's - flr]
["Faith?" A minute ago the cultist was trying to demand that
Scientology was a technology - flr]
[After all, look what it's done for this guy - flr]
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