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Cynbad asked this question on 4/26/2000:
I didn't get the connection. Was someone murdered? By who? How is
Scientology involved? Please experts if you answer a question, see
if you can add the basics so that someone just walking in here can
know what your talking about. I've heard nothing about Scientology
and murders.
Greg Churilov gave this pathetic response 4/26/2000:
Nobody was murdered.
As it is, the criminal organization is charged with two felony counts:
Practicing medicine without a license (which the criminal organization
has repeatedly been punished for over the past four decades) and
the criminal neglect of a disabled adult.
It is extremely likely that the criminal organization would be up on
murder charges had the prosecution known in 1995 what it knows now. The
ringleaders responsible for killing Lisa all had to be given immunity from
prosecution before they would sing. After they started telling the truth,
the facts of the matter certainly warrant murder charges against some of
them - flr]
The person you are referring to was a troubled and depressed lady
in her mid-thirties who lived in Clearwater and engaged (on and off)
in courses at the local Church of Scientology.
Only months prior to getting killed by the criminal cult she was pronounced
"clear" by the cult -- something which is extremely expensive.
The court records show that he was bilked out of $75,000 before they killed
her and the court records also show that Scientologists raided her bank
accounts after they killed her - flr]
Due to her erratic behaviour and her mood swings, local Church officials
had already made note of her as a "potential trouble source"
(someone who needs special attention and Ethics guidance).
When she removed her clothes in public she became what's known in the
criminal cult as a "PR flap." The cult's only solution was
to kill her in accord to their mad messiah's "tech." Had the
cultists responsible for this homicide been allowed to think for
themselves, one of them, at least, would have refused to kidnap her
and would have helped her escape so that she could get proper mental
care - flr]
After some career problems she walked through the streets, and was going
to be institutionalized. Since Scientology does not believe in
Institutionalization they intervened, taking her instead to a local
religious retreat where she was put on mild (over-the-counter) sedatives
and a regimen of "plenty of rest, plenty of nutrition".
Cult followers came to the hospital and checked her out against the
recommendation of the medical doctors present. 17 days later the criminal
cult delivered her body to a Scientologist doctor four hospitals away
when in fact there was an emergency room half a block away from the Ft.
Homicide Hotel - flr]
In some cases this method leads to the person snapping out of it and
progressing back to a healthier condition. In Lisa's case she remained
in a delusory state for a couple of days, and then suddenly developed a
blood clot which created a medical emergency.
She was rushed into the local hopsital by Church staff members, but
unfortunately they didn't make it in time and she arrived DOA.
It wouldn't have mattered whether they delivered her body to the local
hospital or whether they drove her dead body into the next state, however.
She was long dead before they tried to hide her body with a Scientologist
doctor - flr]
This is a very sad incident, but also an extremely rare one, and an
incident that happened because of a person's fragile mind, some good
intentions gone awry, and an unforeseen medical emergency.
In fact the "introspective rundown" ritual that they killed Lisa
with has resulted in numerous deaths and people who have escaped from this
torture have filed criminal charges against the cult in the past -- and
they have won since they have the crook's own once-secret in-house
policy directives written by the madman Hubbard to prove that such criminal,
murderous behavior is a matter of policy - flr]
Tragic as this may be, it is unexcusable that Lisa's aunt, who prior
to her death was a punitive and suppressive influence to Lisa, now is
after MONEY for personal gain using Lisa as an excuse.
Lisa had been talking about leaving the cult and, according to Hubbard
policy, that automatically ment that she was insane -- PTS 3 in the jargon
of the cult.
As for money, that's another lie. The only recourse for punishing the
criminal organization which continues to kill people is to punish them
where they live. With Scientology, Hubbard's primary goal is to "make
money, make more money, help others to make money." The only possible
way to punish these crooks is to try to take away the funds that the crooks
use to kill people with - flr]
It is also inexcusable that a small band of anti-Scientologists are
using this tragedy to further their own political agenda.
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[In fact the Clearwater prosecution in this homicide felt that they could
not get a conviction if they applied murder charges even though there
is enough evidence now to warrant the charges.
[And that's a lie that the cult's criminal ringleaders are programming
their remaining followers with. In fact Lisa had been taking courses at
the Ft. Harrison for many years and was working for a Scientology front
company near by.
[And that's a lie. He was labeled "PTS type 3" because she was
telling the cult she was going to leave, had told a frield she was leaving,
and was hinting to her family that she was going to surprise thgem by telling
they she was going to leave, holding off telling them the good news as a
surprise for her next visit home.
[And those are profound lies. She asked for help of paramedics who were
in the area, asking to speak with someone who would listen to her. Since
the paramedics wouldn't listen to her, she removed her clothes and started
walking past the paramedics. The paramedics took her to a hospital for
evaluation. Contrary to what this cultist claims, she was never going to
be "institutionalized." The State of Florida doesn't have the
Baker Act and couldn't "institutionalize" her even if they had
wanted to.
[That's another amazingly insane lie. The criminal cult delivered her dead
body to a hospital 45 minutes away when there was an emergency room less
than half a block from the Ft. Harrison Hotel. The reason why they did this
was because Lisa was killed inside of the Ft. Harrison Hotel and they
wanted to have a Scientology doctor take her body to try to cover up the
killing.
[And that's completely wrong. If they would have just let her escape from
the Ft. Harrison Hotel, they wouldn't have been able to kill her. And it's
not at all as "extremely rare" as this cultist would have people
believe.
[And that's a lie. Inside of the Scientology cult, anyone who tries to
help a family member escape from the cult is a "suppressive person"
and as such the cult follower is ordered to "disconnect" from that
family member.
[Presumably that "small band of anti-Scientologists" include
every law enforcement agency and news agency in the world. This cultist's
response is a mirror of the insane paranoia that his mad messiah suffered
from which included psychologists who are themselves being controlled by
space aliens; the "Marcabian invasion fleet" that Hubbard came
up with in his insanity - flr]
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