Notice: Fredric Rice may have removed segments of the replies given to questions if they contained copyrighted materials. After a very short while, Scientology "experts" refused to answer questions and started cut-and-pasting copyrighted cult propaganda. Additionally I removed URLs in some of the replies, and left them in others. And it's also important to note that eventually the unfortunate "Greg Churilov" cultist was ejected from askme.com for his typical Scientological behavior.

Subject: Reeducation Camps?! Huh?! II
Answered by: Greg Churilov
Asked By: Anonymous

Anonymous asked this question on 5/1/2000:

You didn't answer the question. Instead you gave a red herring response hoping to throw people off the subject.

larrybergan gave this response on 4/25/2000:

Dear Monica,

Would Reba approve of such a veiled attack on a spritual group? I've done the reserach, Spirit is right as desertfiler continues to be a known man of dirpeute.

desertphile gave this response on 4/24/2000:

One may call it "re-education" or as John Atack, Stephen Kent, and others call it, "re-indoctrination." See the RealMedia clip at http://www.xenutv.com/int/happy.ram

On January 7th 1974 Hubbard wrote the following words:

"The Rehabilitation Project Force (RPF) is hereby brought into being."

The inmates are classified as:

1. Criminally minded people who are in the Sea Org working against the rest of the group.

2. Those who are not able to do the jobs they are assigned and or who demonstrate opposition to the overall group intentions and purposes.

3. people who are actively carrying out counter intentions to the overall group goal as evidenced by the lack of self generated contribution and demonstrated willingness to comply to directives, orders, programs and issued policy- basically

4. People who are not getting the "correct" result after applying the product of and who are assigned exact results and do not achieve these.

5. People who are deemed insane, out of character and this is evidenced by behavior patterns deem crazy or nuts by the group.

"As a two-time 'graduate' of the RPF, I have a very good understanding of what the purpose of the RPF is. It's to break a person's spirit and turn the person into an unquestioning, obedient Sea Org member who will do whatever told without question. LRH repeatedly said he didn't believe in punishment, but the RPF is proof that he didn't really mean it. " -- Monica Pignotti

"On Flag, the typical schedule was that we got up at 5AM each morning and went until 10PM each night. This is a total of 17 hours. Subtract 5 hours 'study time' (mainly e-metered confessionals) and half an hour for each of three meals. That's 17 hours waking time minus 6 and a half hours (meals and study), less half an hour for personal hygiene = at least 10 hours of work per day. The work consisted mainly of cleaning toilets and bathrooms and cleaning corridors for the womens' teams and doing garbage detail and scrubbing decks for the mens' teams.

If the areas cleaned failed to pass white glove inspection, punishment was to run laps. Any questionining of the fairness of the punishment resulted in further orders to run more laps. There were times when this schedule was over-ridden and we were ordered to work 30 hours straight, at a stretch, as Stephen Kent truthfully reports. On the RPF's RPF people do not get any 'study' time and are allowed only 5 hours of sleep per night, and with the exception of brief meal breaks have to work the dirtiest jobs the rest of the time." -- Monica Pignotti

http://wwww.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Library/Shelf/pignotti

How long was someone's duration of stay in RPF typically?

"It can vary from about 3 months if the person gets through quickly to 1-3 years for some people. From what I've seen, it depends on how compliant and passive the person is. The more compliant they are, the quicker they will get out." -- Monica Pignotti

larrybergen declined to answer on 4/26/2000:

Sorry to hear about your experience ,though i wonder what you might have done? Could it be similar to what you do now? I'm not interested in communication with you but thanks for sharing and letting me know where you are coming from.

Greg Churilov gave this meandering lie on 5/2/2000:

Monica, I am sorry that your RPF experience was a crappy one. Mine was a more positive one, where policy was more closely observed.

I can understand your resentment, since obviously the program you experienced was run ineffectively and perhaps even abusively.

The RPF is a very small part of the Sea Org, which is a very small part of all of Scientology. It also focuses on individuals that have (to some extent or other) violated their vows to the Sea Org, so I can see that it may ocassionally happen that they are treated with less than love by the rest of the team.

[And in fact the RPF is a prison work camp that one is ordered to go to upon pain of being thrown out of the cult -- if they're allowed that much. Many people get kidnapped and shipped off to the cult's RPF where they are held against their will. Some that have escaped managed to make it to police authorities which took them into protective custody where after eventually the victims launched successful criminal and civil cases against the cult - flr]

So it may be that ocassionally there isn't enough focus in having it run as well as it should. If that is the case, then that should be remedied.

But I cannot condone your attacks on the whole of Scientology, instead of, as is standard policy within the Church, to write Knowledge Reports on a bad situation to have it corrected.

[The cultist uses the cult term "knowledge report." This is a letter about someone else wherein the individual contrives elaborate lies about someone else, or covers an incident and does his or her best to blow it up into a major "crime" against the cult's mad messiah. This use of "knowledge reports" is esactly equal to the advent of Nazi Germany in that neighbors wrote "knowledge reports" on their fellow neighbors to get in good with the Workers Party - flr]

To the extent that you participate and do nothing to change a bad situation, you are part of the problem and not part of the solution.

You are now dramatizing your case wildly, which is not constructive to you nor to the Church.

I would recommend a different approach...

[Of course he would. Anything but the truth would be nice for the cult's remaining followers - flr]

best,
Spirit

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