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Subject: Screaming in Scientology office on Colorado Blvd?
Answered by: alerma
Asked By: Anonymous

Anonymous asked this question on 5/4/2000:

I used to work in a sandwhich shop that was pretty close to an office of the Scientology cult that was located on Colorado Blvd. along where the Rose Parade is run every year, here in California.

One day I was with a co-woker as we walked past the place on our lunch break. I never would have gone in alone but since I was with my friend, we thought we would run in and see what it was about. We had worked close to the cult for years and never gave them much thought.

There was some little kid... couldn't have been more than 10 year old or so... that met us at the door. The kid was filthy and stank, desperately needing a bath. That was enough for me to want to leave but my friend whispered to me, "in for a penny, in for a pound." Whatever that means we stuck it out and started to get a lot of smooth talk about taking that stress test that they're always trying to sell people.

The kid's parents... at least I think it was his parents... came in and tried constantly to seperate me and my friend. We wouldn't let ourselves be seperated so we spent all the time in that little front hallway thing that the cult had. We were trying to politely leave when we hear some woman just screaming loudly.

We could see this woman sitting in a chair leaning over an ash tray screaming like an insane person at it to 'rise up!' She turned red and just kept screaming at the ash tray! One of the parents of this kid that was trying to seperate us walked quickly over to the woman, said something, and looked back at us extremely embarrassed.

My friend and I got the hell out of the place. I admit that we were very scared that these insane people would follow us out and we walked quickly away. After half a block or so, we both started shaking and laughing and we hoped that the people inside wouldn't recognize us at work since some times they would send people in for lunch or some times dinner.

What's that all about? Screaming like someone possess of Satan at an ash tray, for God's sake?!!!???

alerma gave this response on 5/4/2000:

ahhh, what you witnessed is one of what are called the "Upper Indoc TRs" {Upper Indoctrination Training Routines}

I believe it is called TR - 7

You are supposed to practice intention without reservation on an ashtray, commanding it to STAND UP.... then you raise the ashtray with your hand and say THANK YOU.

What this is suppose to do is imprint upon the participant by means of implication that someday he won't have to use his hand to make the ashtray rise up in the air. [ After they achieve the vaulted state called OT - Operating Thetan }

However, there are NO OTS IN SCIENTOLOGY

They ALL USE THEIR HANDS

Arnie Lerma

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