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Subject: Screaming in Scientology office on Colorado Blvd?
Answered by: Greg Churilov
Asked By: Anonymous

Anonymous asked this question on 5/4/2000:

I used to work in a sandwhich shop that was pretty close to an office of the Scientology cult that was located on Colorado Blvd. along where the Rose Parade is run every year, here in California.

One day I was with a co-woker as we walked past the place on our lunch break. I never would have gone in alone but since I was with my friend, we thought we would run in and see what it was about. We had worked close to the cult for years and never gave them much thought.

There was some little kid... couldn't have been more than 10 year old or so... that met us at the door. The kid was filthy and stank, desperately needing a bath. That was enough for me to want to leave but my friend whispered to me, "in for a penny, in for a pound." Whatever that means we stuck it out and started to get a lot of smooth talk about taking that stress test that they're always trying to sell people.

The kid's parents... at least I think it was his parents... came in and tried constantly to seperate me and my friend. We wouldn't let ourselves be seperated so we spent all the time in that little front hallway thing that the cult had. We were trying to politely leave when we hear some woman just screaming loudly.

We could see this woman sitting in a chair leaning over an ash tray screaming like an insane person at it to 'rise up!' She turned red and just kept screaming at the ash tray! One of the parents of this kid that was trying to seperate us walked quickly over to the woman, said something, and looked back at us extremely embarrassed.

My friend and I got the hell out of the place. I admit that we were very scared that these insane people would follow us out and we walked quickly away. After half a block or so, we both started shaking and laughing and we hoped that the people inside wouldn't recognize us at work since some times they would send people in for lunch or some times dinner.

What's that all about? Screaming like someone possess of Satan at an ash tray, for God's sake?!!!???

Greg Churilov gave this response on 5/6/2000:

LOL! Yes, I can see how you'd think we Scientologists are loons! But (I can't stop laughing) let me explain!

There is a series of exercises, or drills, designed to have shy people improve their communication. These exercises are called Training Routines.

One specific exercise always looks really weird to the uninformed. It is called TR-8 (training routine #8) and is for shy people to overcome their inability to raise their voice, and is also an exercise in "intention" (the ability of getting what you want).

The individual sits on a chair, but instead of confronting a person like in the other drills, he confronts an inanimate object (that way the coach doesn't have to put up with the yelling). The person is the instructed to tell this object (remember, it is a mental exercise) to "stand up" or "sit down". REALLY loud.

As an individual does this exercise, at first you see them being really shy and timid, and later on they are yelling like US marine drill sargeants, and eventually they feel confident that they can use any volume of voice and get their intention across.

What is the point of the yelling? Well, we all are taught to be really careful not to raise our voice, not to disturb other people. In some cases, this becomes such a hangup that a person whispers instead of talking.

But my basic point is that it is a controlled exercise. The individual does this for ten minutes or so and then the coach says, "ok, that's it", and the person stops and does the next exercise.

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About the kid running around, well, that is just some unprofessional secretary or receptionist bringing her kid to work (which is frowned upon because it looks sloppy). Or maybe it was the child of a customer, and you can't just kick them out!

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You say they kept trying to "separate" you. I think that what you are referring to is that they were going to have you do a personality test, and that is supposed to be done individually, not in pairs or as a committee.

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I think that it was a mistake of you to go in a place that you feared and mistrusted so much to begin with. With that attitude, ANYTHING would've been a sign of posession by the devil or something...

I am not excusing the unprofessional behaviour of that Center. They should've had some course room for the lady to do her voice exercises. And maybe they should've asked you what yuor questions and/or concerns were, so that they could explain to you what the deal is.

But you gotta admit you walked in with an already negative impression, and were only looking for something to confirm that impression.

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As a funny footnote, when those Training Routines first got introduced as a course, back in 1958 or so, Scientologists almost got thrown out of a hotel because the manager thought there was a fight. Only after he was explained that it is a deliberate exercise did he finally get it and relax.

best, Spirit

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Greg Churilov declined to answer on 5/6/2000:

No reason was provided for declining this question (other than that he's a liar and a cowardly cultist, maybe.)

Anonymous rated this answer a 1.

That's Satanic. I read documents that Scientology has tried to censor that prove Hubbard was a Satanist. This Satanic ritual won't save Hubbard from Hell. Only Jesus can save.

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