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FredricRice asked this question on 5/9/2000:
So far I've only read fragments from OT1 through OT8. Supposedly OT9,
10, and 11 are supposed to be released soon.
Does anybody know if they have been or whether fragments have been
released into the public domain?
I see that:
OT8 - Truth Revealed
are scheduled.
We already know some fragments of OT8, of course. The truth is that
Hubbard claimed Jesus Christ was a lover of young boys in that
document. But what about the other three?
honorarykid gave this response on 5/9/2000:
I know nothing of the OT levels 9,10 or 11.
There was a document that circulated a few years ago that purported
to be the OT 8 level docments, called "Truth Revealed."
Some ex-Scientologists posting to alt.religion.scientology thought they
remembered these materials, and that they were the genuine article.
The CoS has decried it as a "squirreled" forgery, circulated to impugn
its reputation.
It was this material which contained the revelation that Jesus was, in
reality, a "lover of young boys" (i.e. a homosexual pedophile). If this
document really is the highest Operating Thetan level within the
Church of Scientology, then obviously this can only mean that not only
is Scientology completely incompatible with Christianity, but that
Scientology is totally contemptuous of Christianity and the Divinity of
Jesus.
Unfortunately, the CoS keeps all it's upper level documents under lock
and key, and are not willing to reveal its contents to the public. So we
must decide for ourselves from conflicting claims, who to believe,
either those few people who have actually progressed to that level and
then quit Scientology, or Scientology itself.
But given that the other OT levels already talk about how our
sympathy for the crucified Jesus is simply an alien brainwashing
implant, I don't find it hard to imagine that L. Ron Hubbard acutally
made this OT 8 claim.
The average rating for this answer is 5.
You rated this answer a 5.
Interesting.
I seem to recall reading something about OT9 being available for sale to
people inside of Scientology, but it looks like nobody knows for sure
whether they're out yet. And since Hubbard died, it would be David
Miscavage coming up with them and, no doubt, claiming Hubbard wrote
them before he "dropped the body."
It also looks like you're saying we'll have to wait for an OT8 to leave the
organization with copies before we'll know for sure.
Thanks for the answer!
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Subject: The new OT levels
Answered by: honorarykid
Asked By: FredricRice
OT9 - Character
OT10 - Operating
OT11 - Future
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