Notice: Fredric Rice may have removed segments of the replies given to questions if they contained copyrighted materials. After a very short while, Scientology "experts" refused to answer questions and started cut-and-pasting copyrighted cult propaganda. Additionally I removed URLs in some of the replies, and left them in others. And it's also important to note that eventually the unfortunate "Greg Churilov" cultist was ejected from askme.com for his typical Scientological behavior.

FredricRice asked this question on 5/11/2000:

The subject line really asks it all. There are copies of OT8 all over the network and I see that there's a claim by one of the cult's many lawyers -- Helena Kobrin -- that the OT8 documents are forgeries. But that then calls into question why they were identified as copyrighted materials when the cult raided Arnie Lerma's offices.

Do any of the Scientologists still inside know if they're real or if they're forgeries? Do any of the ex-Scientologists here know if they've seen these documents inside before?

Thanks.

Note: I'll web your answer unless you tell me otherwise, if you don't mind.

Desertphile gave this response on 5/11/2000:

Hi.

You are correct, as far as I know. The RTC claims that OT8 on the Web is a "forgery," and yet they claim they own it. Why they would post a forgery of OT8 on the internet is something only they can answer. Very odd behavior for lawyers.

As for webbing my replies, that has been done at:

http://holysmoke.org/dp000/dp000.htm

You rated this answer a 5.

Thanks. So it looks like you don't know whether the OT8 that's available is real or not. Presumably one could simply write the cult's lawyers and ask. Perhaps Mr. Lerma would be the most logical person to write such a note asking about the validity of the documents.

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