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FredricRice asked this question on 5/15/2000:

Greetings!

I have a question about L. Ron Hubbard's book "A History of Man." I suspect that only current Scientologists would be able to help me with this question but I'll toss it out for all the other experts, too, to see if they might know.

The book starts out with Hubbard writing, "This is a cold-blooded and factual account of your last sixty trillion years."

Since the age of the universe is something around 15 billion years, is it possible that this is a type-o and that the editor of "A History of Man" needs to fix it to read "million years" instead of "trillian years?"

I can't imagine that L. Ron Hubbard made such an obvious mistake in his cosmology but one never knows.

Thanks!

FreeZone gave this response on 5/15/2000:

Sixty trillion is certainly not a mistake. The same figure is repeated in a lecture from about the same period:

"Now, up the line, back of that much earlier, goes this enormously long line - enormous, long line - and it goes back there; in some cases it'll register up to 60 trillion years. That is your theta body proper and that has come all the way along. That's really who you are.... And over here on Earth is this genetic line. Little tiny time span, only occupies maybe three and a half billion years, if that." (Therapy Section of Technique 80: Part II, 21 May 1952, appears in FZBA postings as Route to Infinity 11)

Also contemporary with HoM is the Individual Track Map, Tech Vol 1, pp 232 - 238. It goes back to 'Home Universe Area', listed as 'About 60 Trillion Years Ago'. It gives 'Entrance Into Mest Universe Incident' as 'One Trillion +'. These were understood to be very rough numbers, always giving way to the actual number given by the PC. But the whole track has always been assumed to be much longer than the track of this universe, and although HoM focuses on incidents of this universe, the 60 trillion number certainly doesn't apply only to it.

Also, as the number above shows, LRH didn't accept the normally given age of the physical universe. He didn't necessarily accept the normal age of the Sun either:

"I know they've been burning, to my own personal knowledge they've been burning for the last 200 trillion [years], the existing collection of suns in this immediate vicinity." (The Free Being, SHSBC 9 July, 1963)

Ron was generally quite dismissive of most sciences, not just psychology, and rejected their basic conclusions quite freely.

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I suppose it becomes a matter of religious belief, then. Perhaps people who believe everything Ron wrote have to believe that there's something wrong with science, physics, and contemporary cosmologies.

Amazing. Thanks.

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