Notice: Fredric Rice may have removed segments of the replies given to questions if they contained copyrighted materials. After a very short while, Scientology "experts" refused to answer questions and started cut-and-pasting copyrighted cult propaganda. Additionally I removed URLs in some of the replies, and left them in others. And it's also important to note that eventually the unfortunate "Greg Churilov" cultist was ejected from askme.com for his typical Scientological behavior.

Anonymous asked this question on 5/26/2000:

Wow! The evidence I have been reading about against the 'church of scientology' is mind-boggling. The problem I have come across in the past is that with such quantity of evidence against an organization, is that it turns out to be manufactured or planted evidence periodically, especially if the organization is of a 'radical' nature. My question is: Is there some area of the criminal justice system which holds conclusive evidence? Or, is there somewhere else to search for this type evidence? What I am looking for is somewhere to find evidence in a manner which is conclusive that it is not manufactured or planted.

Thank you.

Desertphile gave this response on 5/29/2000:

Er, the evidence of crimes that have been committed by Scientology Inc in the past, and the crimes it is STILL COMMITTING, are vast and conclusive.

What would you think about a "church" who deliberately provokes a confrontation with a peaceful protestor just so they could use the event to silence the protester and send him to jail? See the latest articles (the links at the bottom of the page) at http://holysmoke.org/minton/minton.htm

What would you think about a "church" who hired two off-duty police officers to arrest someone for "tresspassing" who had not even showed up at the location first?! And that the "tresspassing" occured on a public sidewalk? See http://holysmoke.org/mb/mb.htm

How about a "church" that tortured a woman to death just because she wanted to leave the "church?" See http://holysmoke.org/lm/lm.htm http://www.lisatrust.net/

How about a "church" that planted drugs in a person's car and then called the police just because that person wanted to start up an ANTI-DRUG program? http://holysmoke.org/mm/mm.htm

Or a "church" that put LSD in a pregnant woman's tooth paste? http://holysmoke.org/mm/mm.htm

Ever hear of a "church" that has forced labor internment camps? http://holysmoke.org/cos/rpf.htm"> http://holysmoke.org/cos/rpf.htm

http://holysmoke.org/cos/rpf-money.htm

http://holysmoke.org/cos/rpf-today.htm

Then there was the vast, international crimes of treason, conspiracy, burglry, breaking and entering, and theft that Hubbard ordered his Guardian's Office to commit. See: http://www.entheta.net/entheta/go/ops/ops.html http://holysmoke.org/cos/stipul.txt http://holysmoke.org/grand-jury.htm

(Note: Holysmoke.org it's not my web site, but I love it. Just LOVE it. It has damn near every thing a person could wish for to learn about Scientology.)

These are not and were not crimes committed by "rouge Scientologist." These were and are being committed BY POLICY and ordered by Scientology management.

The subject is far too vast to cover even briefly here.

Criminal acts are as much a part of Scientology as breathing is part of living.

Desertphile gave this follow-up answer on 5/29/2000:

Hi. I just read "larrybergen's" answer to you.

Please note that the acts of treason against the United States, Germany, and Greece were committed and / or aided by Scientology Field Staff Members. This is demonstrated conclusively in the Grand Jury Indictment regarding "Operation 'Snow White'" and in the recent Greek trial.

Larry is a FSM. Draw your own conclusions.

The Greek trial is very interesting. Scientology Inc. ordered the theft of Greek military secrets. Specifically, the location of surface-to-air and surface-to-surface missles on Greek army bases. With this knowledge, an enemy can precisely target those missles while they are still on the ground, and not have to worry about high definition photographs from orbit.

Those plans also included the location of base housing, and included the housing's incident angle of concrete roofing. The incident angle is used to deflect incoming mortar and missle barages. When the enemy knows the precise angle and direction of the roofing, they may calculate the best trajectory for maximum penetration.

Needless to say, the documents Scientology Inc stole could be worth a great deal of money to the enemies of Greece.

Lovely "church," eh?

Anonymous asked this follow-up question on 5/30/2000:

I had already been to all the sites mentioned, and to several others as well covering both 'sides' of the fence before I had posted the question. Also, now, I have followed through on some other avenues I have available to me as a long time investigator. At this time, I am awaiting reports from Clearwater from an old acquaintance of mine who lives reasonably near there and owes me a favor or two. To be very honest with you, some of the background found on Mr. Minton and several others involved around him, does not in any way feed a sense of respectability. In fact, there are some outstanding warrants on some involved. This in itself is not conclusive, merely an indicator. I am still looking for substantial evidence with regard to many of the activities alleged of the 'church'. There are a never ending supply of allegations, but the more deeply I look at evidence provided, the more full of holes it becomes. --this evidence is based on this allegation, and this allegation is based on this evidence which was brought forth by this entity, this entity came across this evidence by?????????????....and this is where I am collectively finding the breakdown of evidence.

I would still like to hear from someone here what the actual convicted crimes of the notorious '11' were.

Thank you very much for your response. I was not however, looking for more allegations. I had already searched the areas you mentioned, as well as others.

Thank you

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