What does the IRS agreement say about refunds?
Question answered by honorarykid in Scientology
yertletheturtle asked this question on 7/31/2000:
Can anyone explain in simple english what the IRS agreement
means to those seeking a refund? What rights to parishoners actually
have? What steps must they take to get their money back?
I started to read this, but it's written in a way not
to be understood by most people.
http://www.xenu.net/archive/IRS/index.html
honorarykid gave this response on 8/2/2000:
What kind of refund are you talking about?
If you're talking about tax refunds, the IRS agreement
addresses that fairly specifically (but I agree with you that
the wording is quite legalistic and hard to parse).
Payments to the CoS for "qualified religious services" for
which "fixed donations" were charged, now became eligible
charitable contributions. You add the deductions to your
other itemized deductions on Schedule A.
For tax years prior to 1993 (when the agreement was
reached between Scientology and the IRS), the IRS was
apparently willing to also grant a deduction of 80% of each
dollar spent on those same services.
However, as is normal in other 501(c)(3) groups, payments
for books, materials and artifacts (like E-meters) would not
be eligible for a deduction. And of course, like with any
charitable contribution, you are obligated to have receipts
proving you had indeed paid for the qualifying services.
Without receipts, the deductions would be disallowed and
interest and penalties applied in the event you get audited.
The new deductions are also limited by statutes of
limitations. I have no idea how many years you can go back
and still refile your tax return with the IRS, but I wouldn't
be surprised to learn it was 7 years.
And the process of collecting an additional tax refund would
be nasty from a paperwork standpoint. Each individual
taxpayer seeking the additional tax deduction would need
to file an amended 1040, along with the revised Schedule A
to show the new, higher, charitable contribution for each
year in which the additional refund was being claimed.
Generally speaking, and depending on how much you paid
to Scientology, if you had very little existing tax liability, or
your newly calculated itemized deductions still did not equal
or exceed the standard deduction for the years in question,
there still might be no monetary advantage in refiling.
Also, the IRS agreement reads very much like a
class-action settlement agreement (although the class
members, Scientologists, were not likely ever consulted
about what they thought would make an equitable
agreement). Strangely, to get the deduction, this
agreement apparently obligates you (if I'm interpreting it
correctly) to accept all the terms of this !SECRET!
agreement. To get the deduction for Scientology services,
you must also agree to the dropping all Scientology inspired
lawsuits against the IRS and it's agents.
Not that Scientologists have reason now to sue IRS agents
beyond what the general population would, but I think this
a very unusual thing to have to agree to, in order to get a
tax deduction. And if a Scientologist wanted to sue the IRS
for non-contribution issues, would their hands be tied by
this agreement? I'm not a lawyer or a tax preparer, so I
really can't say. But all this shows that the "charity"
involved in these deductions had probably less to do with a
determination that the CoS was really acting as a
charitable institution, and lot more to do with ending the
institutional coercion and abuse that the CoS was applying
to the IRS.
It's a very ironic thing that the IRS, which is noted for its
own use of some of those heavy-handed tactics to collect
taxes, was caved-in by the CoS' use of them against it.
And if you were talking about a refund FROM Scientology of
"money on the books" or funds paid for a specific course
with which you were dissatisfied, I don't think the IRS
agreement says anything about that.
BUT if you had claimed a tax deduction for money
"donated" to Scientology and then received a refund of
those monies from Scientology, you would then be legally
obligated to pay the tax on those amounts.
I hope this helps.
yertletheturtle rated this answer:
Thank You! But I must admit I was referring more specifically
to refunds and re-payments from the church.
It is quite interesting, however,
that at the end of the day, I was not able to take a deduction for
any of my previous donation due to, as you also
mentioned that the itemized deductions did not equal the
standard deductions. I would hope to guess that would mean I
would not be obligated to pay taxes on any refund.
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