How many OT Completions?
Question answered by honorarykid in Scientology
escapee asked this question on 9/30/2000:
I saw a similar question asked below, but the answers have too
much to do with whether OT's are real or not. What I want to
know is how many OT completions are there, that is, how many
have completed NOTs, for example? I know every level like OT I, OT II
etc. is a completion, so don't want to count the same person
several times. So lets just pick on OT III as a major point, and say,
how many people does the Church claim to have completed OT
III? That is, how many have been permitted to attest to
completion.
I would like to see how many people really are making progress
on the bridge. About 20 years ago there were about 3,000 who
had completed OT III.
Maybe an easier statistic would be, how many Clears are there
now? Because Clears are numbered and there were about 7,000
20 years ago. I just would like to see what the current number
is. I think some real statistics would be helpful in evaluating if
the COS really is delivering any good technology.
Of course, of the 3,000 almost 20 years ago, 800 left in mass
exodus in 1982-83. Some had died, and some had previously
disappeared into the woodwork, or have since. Be curious how
many Scientologists who were OT III or above in 1983 are still
around and active in the COS? Really they should do a poll, and
let us know.
honorarykid gave this response on 10/3/2000:
I have a few educated guesses for your informal survey.
Each time someone attests to the state of Clear in
Scientology, they are assigned a unique, serialized number.
When someone gets their Clear number, it's noted in various
Scientology magazines. I believe the numbers of the most
recent Clears are in the vicinity of 50,000.
If your number of 7000 was correct, 20 years ago, that
would mean approximately 43,000 members had passed the
Clear milestone in the past 20 years, or about 2100 new
Clears per year, on average.
Of course, it's hard to extrapolate a current trend line from a
curve with only two data points. Someone with the last few
years of Auditor magazine or other publication could fill in
the more recent monthly numbers <hint> <hint>.
And of course, these numbers presume nothing of the
current status of any of those (approximately) 50,000
"Clear" people. We know that many of them are now out of
Scientology and even declared as suppressives, and listed
as enemies of the church.
Also, I just wanted to point out that recently, much to their
chagrin, David Miscavige notified all individuals who have
reached the milestone of OT-7 that their training was
flawed, and that only 3 of the 59 (I believe it was 59, I
could be mistaken about the exact number) required tools to
become an OT were actually being used in the current
courses!
Miscavige told them all that they'd have to go back on
course to redo their training in the correct way.
So, even passing a milestone in Scientology doesn't
necessarily mean that one will stay beyond it.
escapee rated this answer:
honorarykid gave this follow-up answer on 10/6/2000:
I said in my answer above, that advanced OT course
Scientologists were told they were only being taught 3 of
required 59 tools needed. As I was working from recollection,
I waffled a bit on the 59 number. As it turns out, that
number was wrong, and by a fairly significant amount. So I
got the correct number, from a statement made by Tory
Bazazian, who was on the OT-7 level course.
The correct number is 79. Scientologists who have
completed their OT level courses were informed that they
only received 3 of 79 tools (3.79%).
Also, they were told that for $25,000.00, Scientology will let
them go back on course and get instruction in the other 76
tools.
Just think... there are people out there who'll gladly be
forking over the requested $25,000.00 to the Church of
Scientology.
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