Picket SF org, Meeting with Quiros (repost)
I met Jeff Quirros (OSA northern calif) at the Dec 5th picket at the
SF org. I got there at 3pm, Kristi and Peach started about 1.
I had been picketing about 3 minutes when he came out and addressed me
by name, and asked if he could take a photo. I stood still for a
photo, he wanted both sides of my sign. then he mentioned that I had
been in Texas for a time.
Not wanting him to expend excess energy in covering the high points, I
filled him in on the details. Clients, and various Houston school
drills seminars I did etc. I told him about the Houston Picket by
Fuzzy's and the clam pizza we had. We chatted casually about some of
our mutual acquaintances, Chris Nisbit at the sacramento org who has
just lowered prices. I complimented him on that. And Ron Walker who
used to be the Ethics officer at the COSMOD in Sacramento and who now
runs a cult teck consulting service in Sacramento. He was amazingly
open and candid about some things.
I reminded him that while I had been picketing incognitito so
photographs would be less useful. I had my business web site posted
for a year, and had called OSA with that information, and my phone
number just in case they wanted to do the tango or something.
I did not want them to have to waste any energy in finding me or my
clients. I mentioned two of my major clients to him, along with the
fact that I had presented them with the data on his cults criminal
activity against those of us who post their criminal record to the
web.
(we now have a few more avid high level executuve type lurkers from
the largest semi conductor firms.)
Jeff Quiros said he is reading this NG, I got the impression that
indeed he had been reading the NG. To a significant extent, at least
lately.
He had inside information on the situation with myself, Inreach, the
police, and Bay alarms. Just fascinating isn't it. He claimed never
to have heard of Bryan Quigley.... (my how surprising), he also
claims ignorance of the parisioners org black propaganda site. One
wonders if that crap will wash with the FBI.
Jeff was cordial and respectful during our extended conversation,
about 1/2 an hour in front of the org, he declined however an offer to
come to dinner with us.
Later however as we began the candlelight vigil, he said that if we
knew what really happened to Lisa that we would not be picketing. I
forget his exact words, but he was laughing, and indicating that what
we were doing was **funny** to him. This aligns well with previous
cult response that Lisa 'pulled it in' and deserved what she got and
other attempts by cult management to smear her and justify tying her
to a bed and forceably injecting her with chloral hydrate.
He also said he will be surprised if the cult looses the legal cases.
Earlier the converstation turned to what it would take for the
picketing to cease, and I related that as far as I and perhaps most
picketers were concerned, activity would drop by 90% or more when the
cult ceased its extensive criminal activity, and when it demonstrated
that it was intent on repairing some of the damages done to those who
have been fair gamed in the past. I told him that without having to
pay the attorneys, whores, thugs and hit men 100 million dollars a
year they could put the money into promotion and take over the world.
He thought the idea had merit.
He didn't present a counter agruement, but did express the notion that
we would probably keep picketing regardless. I suggested that he
might survey the critics to get a more accurate assessmwent. He
declined to survey Kristi and the rest of the picketers. I did say I
would continue of course writing and speaking about whatever I liked,
including the cults brainwashing strategies.
He said he'd forward the message to his seniors. He denied knowing
that the technical materials in the cult had been extensively edited,
deleted and changed by the current management.
I referred him to Safes materials at the various critical web sites,
he said he could find them. It is interesting that he argued against
my posting to act in the same fashion as the cultie clones on the
NG... Hi Pat, Ray, Bob etc. a little variety would make your cults
approach a bit less detectable.
he asked for instance 'how many people read and accept your stuff?"
(I told him about 1%). I didn't get into any of these issues with
him, he said he knew how to do a searrch on deja.com. I provided him
with my email address and phone number. he said he'd email me, but I
see he hasn't, I have not checked my phone messages yet, perhaps he
has called.
He wanted to know about the reverse processing I had at flag and who
did it and etc. Then said he had never heard of such a thing, and I
reminded him of the LRH policy that calls for such abuse. He went
silent again.
I asked him why he was allowing parissioners org to post black
propaganda about critics and reminded him that it was against hubbard
policy to do so. I asked him why he was not doing the HCOPL
'Cleaning up a dirty field'. I asked why he was not doing KSW and
stopping the squirrel tech by allowing the technical materials to be
changed?
He remained silent. He didn't deny these at all. His mission was
apparently to try to intimidate me, get data, and just ignore the
meaninful issues. When I pointed out that his name was on the org
buildings title he said he was the secretary of the corporation that
owns it.
My tactic btw is going to be to produce and distribute Books and CD's
and give seminars to corporate security executives world wide. For
every account I loose due to cult OPs I will gain 10 from those who
despise the cult. So far it seems to be working out that way in any
event.
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Dinner was Great. When i was arranging it, the owner of the tai
restaurant wanted to know how many and who we were, and I said we are
picketing the scientologists, she was very friendly at that, and said
she would reserve us our usual table. We got 5 star service.
Kristi, Peach, Phr, and I were joined by two lurkers who helped us
picket after dinner. Phr made fun of my choice of wine, $3.99 a
fifth, with a screw cap, made with white wine and strawberry juice,
carbonated, aged by truck. We had lot of different tai seafood, the
critics left a big tip.
Kristi passed out some scientology kills tee shirts and gave me two
real neat xenu dolls... I'm sending one to my limey friend Dave
Bird... it's lime green Dave, yer gonna love it.
Oh yes, and when the org closed down at 7 pm sunday evening, that
should be the heaviest load of students and PC's... I'd say maybe 5
people left. As a comparrison, the sacramento Org in 1975 had 60 or
70 students at that time, and perhaps 20 staff members. San
Francisco was perhaps a bit busier. From what i can tell, stats at
the SF org are down at least 80% probably 90% from those peak levels.
I'd estimate total staff at under 10 probably 5 or 6, and students at
peak times at fewer than 5 on average. This time last year there were
perhaps 10 people running back and forth from the org during a picket.
It was much slower this time.
The org it appears ran in a couple of ringers on us, I'll let Kristi
and Peach fill you in on that.
oh yes, and Jeff Quiros volunteered that picketing the critics homes
had been counter productive as well as abusing pickerers and ask me to
notice that all that had ceased. I congratulated him. That may have
been when we got into what it would take for all of the critics to
cease picketing.
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Below is a recent big win in business for the cult. I am posting it
for Jeff Quirros with the suggestion that the more the cult attacks
us critics with illegal and unethical means, and the more crimes the
cult commits, the more publicity it is going to get.
Jeff, If you think its getting bad in Europe. well just wait until the
news leaks to the United states congress. Your cult and its
operatives are rapidly becoming a world wide pariah. The recent op on
me is resulting in a lot of red flags going up in silicon valley.
That will be a real problem as the results begin to flower, and more
and more people are informed.
Best Regards, Phil Scott
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Phil Scott
08 Dec 1999
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