wbarwell@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM Sat May 15 20:35:40 1999
In article <19990513015843.07862.00001976@ng-fi1.aol.com>,
Size13EEE <size13eee@aol.comnospam> wrote:
> From: stopthesporgeries@berlin.snafu.de (Tilman)
>> Here's the belief of scientology: that you are possessed by
> Since most ars critics believe that the BT exorcism business
No, there is the abuse, the disconnections, numerous false promises
about big OT abilities, perfect memories, massive increases in IQ, lies
and frauds upon those who sign 5 year contracts to go on staff, or into
the Sea Org and other issues.
Then there is auditing. That fuzzy, "we can't explain it but whatever
it is its great" come-on we see here from many low level clams.
Why auditing costs increase until it costs 4400 - $500 an hour is
never explained by the church. We know. Suckers! $$$$$! Miscavige
and crew dive like porpises in the $$$ in their offshore money vaults.
At lower levels there is that auditine rush that some ex-members have
explained to us, the exact details of the why's and wherefores of
auditing are beside the point. Hubbard tripped over a mind-fuck that
keeps the suckers on the hook.
This is an issue too. It is of course, the same phenomenon that
one see in people who go to their analyst 1 or twice a week and
get very upset when he or she is on vacation or is unavailable
for some reason. The same phenomenon that has many people boring
bartenders with their prattle. Or has many Catholic Priests
spending hours with people who become chronic confessors, who go over
every imagined sin at length several times a week.
Hubbard made this into a hook that keeps one on the conveyor belt
to hugely exspensive auditing, sec checks, expensive repair auditing
when the fake promises don't come true, (it's always YOUR fault) and
other abuses.
This abuse and exploitation is an issue also with critics, you bet!
> This is so as the vast majority of people who were involved
It is the denoument of Scientology. Telling people up front about
this (because the cult surely will not) is a duty of the critics here.
Because failure to explain that the expensive part of Scientology,
that part that has people selling themselves to the Sea Org cause
they KNOW they won't ever have the $$$$ to pay the going rate is
what you can expect from the cult left to its own devices.
Exploitation.
People have a right to know. Critics and non-members whose friends and
family might be suckered into Co$. Those who are being inticed into
the cult with fake promises and to whom this is NOT explained by this
abusive and exploitive cult. Those who are in and are getting some
inkling things are not what they seem in Co$ and wonder "What
the hell?" and somehow make it to here.
If people read it, hear of it, know of it from other sources,
newspaper or magazine, fine, but they do deserve to know it.
And your complaint is a bit of a straw man anyway, we critics KNOW
it is not the whole or a major part or somehow THE key issue.
But you can take any critic concern and give it the same treatment and
then one by one brush all concernes away and pretend theer are no real
concerns.
> Of course there's a great deal of distortion that can be achieved
It is important enough it gets lots of suckers into the Sea Org and
used as cheap labor for the cult so they can get that OT stuff that
offers false promises of grand and great OT powers.
This is what gets a LOT of people into the sea org. Not just playing
on their idealism, the other great Sea Org hook.
And what do the Sea Org study in their march to OT? Xenu, BT auditing
and so yes, it is indeed an important issue. It is what many people do
for goodly portions of their lives. Work 12 hour days to get a few hours
toward going OTVIII eventually, the big gold ring many are conditioned to
want.
> Don't forget, should the Scios succeed in playing a dirty trick
Xenu is part of Scientology, the McGuffin that explains Hubbard's very
expensive OT courses and why we don't see miracle working Clears ala
Dianetics. It is a very impotant part of the plot that helps keep the
Sea Org staffed which organization, has reserved to it, many important
functions within Scientology's structure that keeps it a going concern.
Without a long, ardious, very expensive set of OT courses, based on the
Xenu myth, Scientology would not only have to find a new scam to keep
people paying $$$$ for years to them, but they'd need another hook to get
SO members, and they'd have to reorganize their entire cult from top to
bottom without a SO hooked on the prospects of going OT and becoming
supermen to keep them supplied with warm bodies and drudge labor
at next to no monetary cost to the cult.
So, yes indeed, Xenu is a VERY important lynch pin to the whole scam.
Without that, Scientology would be radically different from what it now
is.
Pope Charles
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Newbie Q: "What is Scientology?!?"
15 May 1999 14:35:40 -0500
>> the spirits of aliens murdered 75,000,000 years ago by
>> "Xenu." You have to exorcise these spirits, at a very high
>> cost per alien.
> is unknown to Scientologists except for those who've become
> extensively involved in it, this Xemu story can hardly be
> what's sums up Scientology in the consensus of critics, if they
> really were to be honest about it.
> with but then ditched Scientology never heard of Xemu, yet
> they for some time had some belief in Scientology. This is,
> and forever will be, the basic flaw in going around telling
> people that Scientology amounts to the Xemu weirdness.
> by going around saying Scientology is just Xemu in essence.
> Scientologists don't resemble suicidal "UFO cults" (recently
> and shockingly in the news) but can be made to carry some of
> their odor by playing up the Xemu business as if it were really
> important in the overall scheme of Scientology beliefs. It's a
> *distortion*, which along with such things as shore stories,
> "PR", acceptable truths and the like, basically amounts
> to what is usually called "lying".
> on you, that you threw your hat into the dirty trick playing
> arena with this kind of "Scientology is belief in Xemu"
> crap right along with them.
SubGenius Pope of Houston
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